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From:   Thorsten Leemhuis <linux@leemhuis.info>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-discuss] RFC: create mailing list "linux-issues"
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Date:   Tue, 23 Mar 2021 20:09:54 +0100
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On 23.03.21 16:01, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Mar 2021 at 04:58, Thorsten Leemhuis <linux@leemhuis.info> wrote:
>>>  If we can
>>> actually get users to *read* it, I think it's going to save kernel
>>> developers a huge amount of time and frustration.
>> And users hopefully as well. But yes, making them read it is the
>> problem. :-/
> I've added a very visible admonition on the front of
> bugzilla.kernel.org. Hopefully, it will help direct some users to
> their distro bug trackers first.

Ahh, great, thx!

>>> I wonder if it might be useful to have a form which users could be
>>> encouraged to fill out so that (a) the information is available in a
>>> structured format so it's easier for developers to find the relevant
>>> information, (b) so it is easier for programs to parse, for easier
>>> reporting or indexing, and (c) as a nudge so that users remember to
>>> report critical bits of information such as the hardware
>>> configuration, the exact kernel version, which distribution userspace
>>> was in use, etc.
>>>
>>> There could also be something in the text form which would make it
>>> easier for lore.kernel.org searches to identify bug reports.  (e.g.,
>>> "LINUX KERNEL BUG REPORTER TEMPLATE")
>>
>> Hmmm, yeah, I like that idea. I'll keep it in mind for later: I would
>> prefer to get reporting-issues.rst officially blessed and
>> reporting-bugs.rst gone before working on further enhancements.
> 
> To my knowledge, git project uses a tool for that:
> https://git-scm.com/docs/git-bugreport
> 
> Theoretically, a similar tool could exist for the kernel.

Wasn't aware of that tool, thx for pointing it out, will take a closer look.

Ciao, Thorsten