Received: by 2002:a05:6a10:9848:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id x8csp1758372pxf; Fri, 26 Mar 2021 14:15:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzngrrKwxc5rFdUkqFb1BcHJitCjBDifUk4jq8Bgm/+X1JnGD6aI6CH4ylhqZ+Hk04067Se X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:ca50:: with SMTP id jx16mr17566484ejb.72.1616793359526; Fri, 26 Mar 2021 14:15:59 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1616793359; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=Wl6qYOto4/2/PXpMFFjnvUsJuWQeCsrOAMq9I9/1R3VOGAlpT4xJ8jT7eMntcKXVT+ oDOmIPoBP2Q5rsnd1+ivDFuBeJV0OILGJbqwCZ/ht6jbPVIwyQnl/vapCmPvGWi/HuBP RH5VcYyPNPcAr7MZDYEI+zxYicchHhJ5CPJMCLZTNCrMysvTTCjIJRAza8OQ5a6Ozike f8RwHgTWdaFYgXC/5nYidSl+6WgQvPl94IxXPbXqqbleJFwwGKi09kRygQLtAh8idP5E K5J9sl147Pds2pDZWP6tin3k9zPA92s/aaxNWL0Sq6HIH+lb2XWW2pmI4rjE+Mu0bkLc aiTg== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:message-id:references:subject:in-reply-to:cc:to :from:date; bh=Z9uiRzd1d6xx0Xgrr0zxUS2uQewZgcAkyCgU5sj6Alw=; b=GTn1HHtE/HnBqoflj5tEJfQBxzNLG0QE82DiBWR7gtWaLGLL+DCj8DNSImsL6DAEDY gkedXCVVDLezY8W1jDAs7Szc5j+rpU2CzR6VotQCoKnsmeljqCLroxGfFjTTHKXSM53c KQkp1L/w4a2wDbaI+DZd4uXlVqdsgLUrcz0yjKua+1JqrDKqwlKZR+Knswr1LevxoYFe Ev6+0SFFxncq2radTNOSPi2OgWkDJxn781/xlu57354AknH3/dAsxmeWPtGIUpSPHYkR z2zeYLvkm9Hc6lXZRpytPYYY/bsNpMuJFydBKc9n1yre0H+lf7/a2W8W5gIVfTxPAETX LwAw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id p25si7125363edm.297.2021.03.26.14.15.37; Fri, 26 Mar 2021 14:15:59 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S230138AbhCZVOK (ORCPT + 99 others); Fri, 26 Mar 2021 17:14:10 -0400 Received: from sibelius.xs4all.nl ([83.163.83.176]:53517 "EHLO sibelius.xs4all.nl" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229957AbhCZVNh (ORCPT ); Fri, 26 Mar 2021 17:13:37 -0400 Received: from localhost (bloch.sibelius.xs4all.nl [local]) by bloch.sibelius.xs4all.nl (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPA id 753b7a91; Fri, 26 Mar 2021 22:13:35 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2021 22:13:35 +0100 (CET) From: Mark Kettenis To: Arnd Bergmann Cc: sven@svenpeter.dev, robh@kernel.org, iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org, joro@8bytes.org, will@kernel.org, robin.murphy@arm.com, marcan@marcan.st, maz@kernel.org, mohamed.mediouni@caramail.com, stan@corellium.com, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: (message from Arnd Bergmann on Fri, 26 Mar 2021 21:03:32 +0100) Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] Apple M1 DART IOMMU driver References: <20210320151903.60759-1-sven@svenpeter.dev> <20210323205346.GA1283560@robh.at.kernel.org> <43685c67-6d9c-4e72-b320-0462c2273bf0@www.fastmail.com> <9f06872d-f0ec-43c3-9b53-d144337100b3@www.fastmail.com> Message-ID: Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org > From: Arnd Bergmann > Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2021 21:03:32 +0100 > > On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 6:28 PM Mark Kettenis wrote: > > > I haven't figured out how the bypass stuff really works. Corellium > > added support for it in their codebase when they added support for > > Thunderbolt, and some of the DARTs that seem to be related to > > Thunderbolt do indeed have a "bypass" property. But it is unclear to > > me how the different puzzle pieces fit together for Thunderbolt. > > As a general observation, bypass mode for Thunderbolt is what enabled > the http://thunderclap.io/ attack. This is extremely useful for debugging > a running kernel from another machine, but it's also something that > should never be done in a production kernel. No kidding! I was surprised to see the bypass support on the Thunderbolt-related nodes.