Received: by 2002:a05:6a10:9848:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id x8csp876022pxf; Wed, 7 Apr 2021 13:55:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzagGTncap8gzr6I0XZ3sCkMSOBKjufPw+KhotyUYnLMvN3jZ24amPFyCKWmwxQVQIng0Pl X-Received: by 2002:a5d:9d13:: with SMTP id j19mr4107196ioj.110.1617828909839; Wed, 07 Apr 2021 13:55:09 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1617828909; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=Qm07ebC++LVuF9qgE6cols9Tp5Xuetosi+2OpjPnXbareVq7queJRSbfGFCYhIQfA/ uwhPP5NqRNr+vwnSaBZwvngSU3LspPZYqMc7HRNh0LcgLujnFIczd35GQwYpCBHDTBPW 2wGPvM5mZd403gg4XZH7zNqlKY/S1h7aQi0tNEy70hiisPXgDbuDavS7SKs/X2tFvx0B IOozO+a6O4p//WuxRTTWgQVhucXfQBtv0vCNs9kvLcqQxYMjmjAjGW5ZzW+HqWSGrXpW WJBKQPyGE4I6hhWVUflDtJSkznCXAN9Yt/Ql3D/wWXnLR7sosvYxWBqvhp/Z5JsGTtLT iBkw== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :user-agent:references:in-reply-to:date:cc:to:from:subject :message-id:dkim-signature; bh=5B4EydAFySuCx8ASw1PaHZMQMaOqH+r5Eq4RihuTXNA=; b=FopxywquVyEFgATdXLXJWH3oZC8g1LPRojF9449ILBdwhIMPrtJG6yU2rTjtREeJnw ZvSdCrJd/c9bkml+UbanVoJgPY3lOjM6/kUmP9usWlzcwgYaUWjSpBr+iF/ByABvsZkm AcwWYsD6C62R7ayr9Z/gmwElUq/kdONrXchE8eq8PvhJSQB941A+kDOFtY7kzH7i665r /svV/SwI/PyTyHKvg9E6W+rFRC1HLmzEhHQEcS8mduDMItFY0TGH02Ah5M5/T/sF+IYg a4oWVoxwetRN8Mvs/esf8quvF+q1vkg5zDnBRgwisvI+XXxN2RUuEBM9gvLrlA0KfTqJ U2dA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@suse.com header.s=susede1 header.b="CrwLL+E/"; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=QUARANTINE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=suse.com Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id h4si22111268jav.44.2021.04.07.13.54.57; Wed, 07 Apr 2021 13:55:09 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@suse.com header.s=susede1 header.b="CrwLL+E/"; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=QUARANTINE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=suse.com Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1346985AbhDGLhG (ORCPT + 99 others); Wed, 7 Apr 2021 07:37:06 -0400 Received: from mx2.suse.de ([195.135.220.15]:55362 "EHLO mx2.suse.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S235017AbhDGLhD (ORCPT ); Wed, 7 Apr 2021 07:37:03 -0400 X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at test-mx.suse.de DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=suse.com; s=susede1; t=1617795413; h=from:from:reply-to:date:date:message-id:message-id:to:to:cc:cc: mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=5B4EydAFySuCx8ASw1PaHZMQMaOqH+r5Eq4RihuTXNA=; b=CrwLL+E/olIlNRBqWPvrbL0WQ2iEw44W3FFa+BGiNYi7CUUhsahv3kR8QnwYS4h6o86vTW KWULfN8tNgXexqlOlvfkdYcLsAY6C4DsVkYPs44dMykSwaTyFI23MLUn1frgmczfahayzP 8QgEAwTJtIc10kl8CKHnl09/MEjhLEU= Received: from relay2.suse.de (unknown [195.135.221.27]) by mx2.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B88BB122; Wed, 7 Apr 2021 11:36:53 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v4 0/4] usbnet: speed reporting for devices without MDIO From: Oliver Neukum To: Grant Grundler , Andrew Lunn Cc: Jakub Kicinski , Roland Dreier , nic_swsd , netdev , "David S . Miller" , LKML Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2021 13:36:43 +0200 In-Reply-To: References: <20210405231344.1403025-1-grundler@chromium.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" User-Agent: Evolution 3.34.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Am Dienstag, den 06.04.2021, 18:01 +0000 schrieb Grant Grundler: > > Ethernet does not support > > different rates in each direction. So if RX and TX are different, i > > would actually say something is broken. > > Agreed. The question is: Is there data or some heuristics we can use > to determine if the physical layer/link is ethernet? > I'm pessimistic we will be able to since this is at odds with the > intent of the CDC spec. Yes, CDC intends to hide that. We can conclude that an asymmetric link rules out ethernet, but anything else is difficult. Regards Oliver