Received: by 2002:a05:6a10:9848:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id x8csp881237pxf; Wed, 7 Apr 2021 14:02:53 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxc2dpHC/86fZTYLQpdy5MO6RqMeLtBEXIi4f6FRyptyvxlVy3NsIr9APVHAejteQSAi/eS X-Received: by 2002:a5e:c102:: with SMTP id v2mr3979038iol.137.1617829373620; Wed, 07 Apr 2021 14:02:53 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1617829373; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=EQJwTBooAcW1Z/Ij8AcjZrCa/Ui8P+HsV2DEBeIqFT8BueGNuTK6KTSbVc/pZ7i91c A6jxgNScZFdMoDnKFJEGbrp+gsUkrQAUGQqEA4/J8CT4+r7Kq9xVtUAHqvkg5Ces2mdE zMRNvvN64tii0MlAyxbUe7QG2+qB7GN/McoCIhw7EfeUv58GmC3+rLkavj7s9S9ESA3B tHS5x09SIK6VXt2ezhsbjmmFL5RB7BWciJecX4lgii7UtJzUHeRiu01OGfnayWp/1/NP 0oDnF+zmM5OR4Oj9JOLd5SvUGSaBnpe9hz3FGH0eyCZzCpMx+bJvhPvFvV0EVd0wU2dn HQ1g== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:mime-version:message-id:date:user-agent :references:in-reply-to:subject:cc:to:from:ironport-sdr:ironport-sdr; bh=R6cMTJMXJnY04BrJ8aVo19ZoexlP5wu+iL1n6q0j6VY=; b=LUxCTeJIDkYKUFVkF6orFb6Ew5GyiwTbvJW42Hs72Fh4AmKWY0q31BzUcXctXH3g1B 03CeDziZUQAPXQRSDi0jKBTxoFOK4g0rIQPSFkPRjbhqvsR246A/Tu/VD7Cc/9AIbCkB tsPvSS1sW9QWCHwjj6l+J7OliFNoZYeguwxRxE4aqfl/6cazSzTPrxU+3ap5fLrKlYoz pLCcZk9htkjr7A8vqFHJybQD6KalbBLt2cIu2ptjhDq1SyCY0We8sviDE74ofIOW4l9V aEFuoVxLjMgaD5suvl3aPF3C9Tx+9dJAqrttr9HHcLgRziDBiVa+fMPcnDIBRkDTv+z7 IMOQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=intel.com Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id i10si23030573ila.39.2021.04.07.14.02.41; Wed, 07 Apr 2021 14:02:53 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=intel.com Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S235596AbhDGOJz (ORCPT + 99 others); Wed, 7 Apr 2021 10:09:55 -0400 Received: from mga17.intel.com ([192.55.52.151]:5732 "EHLO mga17.intel.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S235632AbhDGOJK (ORCPT ); Wed, 7 Apr 2021 10:09:10 -0400 IronPort-SDR: kyZyT5tZA4FKdE/ZwhTZN/ZICh/I0boBgrzLhUi7V3yf5xyKvewFs/TZGhvdfPxH8D2rAbWG9M R8m1VXW+CBnQ== X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="6000,8403,9947"; a="173392698" X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.82,203,1613462400"; d="scan'208";a="173392698" Received: from orsmga004.jf.intel.com ([10.7.209.38]) by fmsmga107.fm.intel.com with ESMTP/TLS/ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 07 Apr 2021 07:09:00 -0700 IronPort-SDR: hPxEBTTpnEm6zCPwBedLV0vjmkvgtbOhKY4mExcIZZRx2HqXB1MOx29/5/ldkfN3f6QDqEi56e +EMb5TDMGXiw== X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.82,203,1613462400"; d="scan'208";a="530217945" Received: from tassilo.jf.intel.com (HELO tassilo.localdomain) ([10.54.74.11]) by orsmga004.jf.intel.com with ESMTP; 07 Apr 2021 07:09:00 -0700 Received: by tassilo.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 42C653001E2; Wed, 7 Apr 2021 07:09:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Andi Kleen To: Christophe de Dinechin Cc: "Kirill A. Shutemov" , David Hildenbrand , Dave Hansen , Dave Hansen , Andy Lutomirski , Peter Zijlstra , Sean Christopherson , Jim Mattson , David Rientjes , "Edgecombe\, Rick P" , "Kleen\, Andi" , "Yamahata\, Isaku" , x86@kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Kirill A. Shutemov" Subject: Re: [RFCv1 7/7] KVM: unmap guest memory using poisoned pages In-Reply-To: (Christophe de Dinechin's message of "Wed, 7 Apr 2021 15:31:28 +0200") References: <20210402152645.26680-1-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com> <20210402152645.26680-8-kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com> <52518f09-7350-ebe9-7ddb-29095cd3a4d9@intel.com> <20210407131647.djajbwhqsmlafsyo@box.shutemov.name> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.3 (gnu/linux) Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2021 07:09:00 -0700 Message-ID: <87zgyauqyr.fsf@linux.intel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Christophe de Dinechin writes: > Is there even a theoretical way to restore an encrypted page e.g. from (host) > swap without breaking the integrity check? Or will that only be possible with > assistance from within the encrypted enclave? Only the later. You would need balloning. It's in principle possible, but currently not implemented. In general host swap without balloning is usually a bad idea anyways because it often just swaps a lot of cache data that could easily be thrown away instead. -andi