Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752242AbWJNXhZ (ORCPT ); Sat, 14 Oct 2006 19:37:25 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752247AbWJNXhZ (ORCPT ); Sat, 14 Oct 2006 19:37:25 -0400 Received: from outpipe-village-512-1.bc.nu ([81.2.110.250]:49627 "EHLO lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752246AbWJNXhY (ORCPT ); Sat, 14 Oct 2006 19:37:24 -0400 Subject: Re: Driver model.. expel legacy drivers? From: Alan Cox To: John Richard Moser Cc: Kevin K , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org In-Reply-To: <45315A20.6090600@comcast.net> References: <4530570B.7030500@comcast.net> <20061014075625.GA30596@stusta.de> <4530FC8E.7020504@comcast.net> <7E4CA247-AD0A-4A20-BEAF-CDD2CA4D3FFE@sbcglobal.net> <45315A20.6090600@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 01:03:57 +0100 Message-Id: <1160870637.5732.46.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.2 (2.6.2-1.fc5.5) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1430 Lines: 29 Ar Sad, 2006-10-14 am 17:44 -0400, ysgrifennodd John Richard Moser: > Yeah, a static code coverage analyzer or some sort of code-reducer would > be nice; these are in general pipe dreams but eh. Also these are > compressed bzip2 tarball sizes, not compiled kernel sizes or source tree > sizes. I would imagine a 100MB bzip2 would turn into something quite > large; the major issue is the amount of work it takes to maintain > something like that. It's not actually clear that you can sensibly evaluate trends like that or the maintainability. Take a look at the flamewar the day the kernel tarball stopped fitting on one floppy disk (1.44MB) Things ceasing to be maintained and exiting the kernel is a two step process and there is a lot in the "waiting for someone to rescue it" stage that probably has no remaining users. At some point nor far away there is going to be a big flush of drivers when ISA bus is dropped. Microsoft are also being very helpful. They are making it harder and harder for people to use drivers not microsoft-signed which in turns pushes up costs for development and as a result encourages more standardization of driver interfaces to take place. Alan - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/