Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752325AbWJOBYu (ORCPT ); Sat, 14 Oct 2006 21:24:50 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752327AbWJOBYu (ORCPT ); Sat, 14 Oct 2006 21:24:50 -0400 Received: from smtp110.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.198.209]:21422 "HELO smtp110.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S1752320AbWJOBYt (ORCPT ); Sat, 14 Oct 2006 21:24:49 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=sbcglobal.net; h=Received:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:References:Content-Type:Message-Id:Content-Transfer-Encoding:From:Subject:Date:To:X-Mailer; b=jN3wpu3mGBkMbnCzq6ZJMKos9nZUQQnxHGXqmFzb2Sb7/0WieyemdnjWPCf1Ig3g3GaIlVeMtSHu1XT097DDQG6Ip5LK48G75S0SP5gHd1Kd4dfhacvBQFT5VgCrlRoCmi/xLlgUncccvr1Oki6STs5PPHQYEwFm3ae8KUSbrjI= ; Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) In-Reply-To: <45317814.8000709@comcast.net> References: <4530570B.7030500@comcast.net> <20061014075625.GA30596@stusta.de> <4530FC8E.7020504@comcast.net> <7E4CA247-AD0A-4A20-BEAF-CDD2CA4D3FFE@sbcglobal.net> <45315A20.6090600@comcast.net> <1160870637.5732.46.camel@localhost.localdomain> <45317814.8000709@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <73CDF2F1-EC0A-431D-9B29-10251FAD21B7@sbcglobal.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Kevin K Subject: Re: Driver model.. expel legacy drivers? Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 20:24:46 -0500 To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1207 Lines: 28 On Oct 14, 2006, at 6:51 PM, John Richard Moser wrote: > >> Microsoft are also being very helpful. They are making it harder and >> harder for people to use drivers not microsoft-signed which in turns >> pushes up costs for development and as a result encourages more >> standardization of driver interfaces to take place. > > huh? > My assumption is that vendors may make fewer gratuitious interface changes so the hardware is more likely to work with existing, signed, drivers. If changes aren't made, existing Linux drivers are more likely to work with new revisions of hardware. My experience in the past for hardware, such as USB based flash memory readers, is that when they came out you seemed to always need a proprietary driver, and Linux drivers needed hints for different readers. It seems better these days, with things like USB keys generally working in both Windows and relatively modern distributions without much effort.llin - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/