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From:   "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>
To:     Dennis Zhou <dennis@kernel.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] mm/swapfile: add percpu_ref support for swap
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Date:   Thu, 15 Apr 2021 13:24:31 +0800
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Dennis Zhou <dennis@kernel.org> writes:

> On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 01:44:58PM +0800, Huang, Ying wrote:
>> Dennis Zhou <dennis@kernel.org> writes:
>> 
>> > On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 11:59:03AM +0800, Huang, Ying wrote:
>> >> Dennis Zhou <dennis@kernel.org> writes:
>> >> 
>> >> > Hello,
>> >> >
>> >> > On Wed, Apr 14, 2021 at 10:06:48AM +0800, Huang, Ying wrote:
>> >> >> Miaohe Lin <linmiaohe@huawei.com> writes:
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> > On 2021/4/14 9:17, Huang, Ying wrote:
>> >> >> >> Miaohe Lin <linmiaohe@huawei.com> writes:
>> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >>> On 2021/4/12 15:24, Huang, Ying wrote:
>> >> >> >>>> "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com> writes:
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>>> Miaohe Lin <linmiaohe@huawei.com> writes:
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>> We will use percpu-refcount to serialize against concurrent swapoff. This
>> >> >> >>>>>> patch adds the percpu_ref support for later fixup.
>> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>> Signed-off-by: Miaohe Lin <linmiaohe@huawei.com>
>> >> >> >>>>>> ---
>> >> >> >>>>>>  include/linux/swap.h |  2 ++
>> >> >> >>>>>>  mm/swapfile.c        | 25 ++++++++++++++++++++++---
>> >> >> >>>>>>  2 files changed, 24 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>> >> >> >>>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>> diff --git a/include/linux/swap.h b/include/linux/swap.h
>> >> >> >>>>>> index 144727041e78..849ba5265c11 100644
>> >> >> >>>>>> --- a/include/linux/swap.h
>> >> >> >>>>>> +++ b/include/linux/swap.h
>> >> >> >>>>>> @@ -240,6 +240,7 @@ struct swap_cluster_list {
>> >> >> >>>>>>   * The in-memory structure used to track swap areas.
>> >> >> >>>>>>   */
>> >> >> >>>>>>  struct swap_info_struct {
>> >> >> >>>>>> +	struct percpu_ref users;	/* serialization against concurrent swapoff */
>> >> >> >>>>>>  	unsigned long	flags;		/* SWP_USED etc: see above */
>> >> >> >>>>>>  	signed short	prio;		/* swap priority of this type */
>> >> >> >>>>>>  	struct plist_node list;		/* entry in swap_active_head */
>> >> >> >>>>>> @@ -260,6 +261,7 @@ struct swap_info_struct {
>> >> >> >>>>>>  	struct block_device *bdev;	/* swap device or bdev of swap file */
>> >> >> >>>>>>  	struct file *swap_file;		/* seldom referenced */
>> >> >> >>>>>>  	unsigned int old_block_size;	/* seldom referenced */
>> >> >> >>>>>> +	struct completion comp;		/* seldom referenced */
>> >> >> >>>>>>  #ifdef CONFIG_FRONTSWAP
>> >> >> >>>>>>  	unsigned long *frontswap_map;	/* frontswap in-use, one bit per page */
>> >> >> >>>>>>  	atomic_t frontswap_pages;	/* frontswap pages in-use counter */
>> >> >> >>>>>> diff --git a/mm/swapfile.c b/mm/swapfile.c
>> >> >> >>>>>> index 149e77454e3c..724173cd7d0c 100644
>> >> >> >>>>>> --- a/mm/swapfile.c
>> >> >> >>>>>> +++ b/mm/swapfile.c
>> >> >> >>>>>> @@ -39,6 +39,7 @@
>> >> >> >>>>>>  #include <linux/export.h>
>> >> >> >>>>>>  #include <linux/swap_slots.h>
>> >> >> >>>>>>  #include <linux/sort.h>
>> >> >> >>>>>> +#include <linux/completion.h>
>> >> >> >>>>>>  
>> >> >> >>>>>>  #include <asm/tlbflush.h>
>> >> >> >>>>>>  #include <linux/swapops.h>
>> >> >> >>>>>> @@ -511,6 +512,15 @@ static void swap_discard_work(struct work_struct *work)
>> >> >> >>>>>>  	spin_unlock(&si->lock);
>> >> >> >>>>>>  }
>> >> >> >>>>>>  
>> >> >> >>>>>> +static void swap_users_ref_free(struct percpu_ref *ref)
>> >> >> >>>>>> +{
>> >> >> >>>>>> +	struct swap_info_struct *si;
>> >> >> >>>>>> +
>> >> >> >>>>>> +	si = container_of(ref, struct swap_info_struct, users);
>> >> >> >>>>>> +	complete(&si->comp);
>> >> >> >>>>>> +	percpu_ref_exit(&si->users);
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>> Because percpu_ref_exit() is used, we cannot use percpu_ref_tryget() in
>> >> >> >>>>> get_swap_device(), better to add comments there.
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> I just noticed that the comments of percpu_ref_tryget_live() says,
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>>  * This function is safe to call as long as @ref is between init and exit.
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> While we need to call get_swap_device() almost at any time, so it's
>> >> >> >>>> better to avoid to call percpu_ref_exit() at all.  This will waste some
>> >> >> >>>> memory, but we need to follow the API definition to avoid potential
>> >> >> >>>> issues in the long term.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> I have to admit that I'am not really familiar with percpu_ref. So I read the
>> >> >> >>> implementation code of the percpu_ref and found percpu_ref_tryget_live() could
>> >> >> >>> be called after exit now. But you're right we need to follow the API definition
>> >> >> >>> to avoid potential issues in the long term.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> And we need to call percpu_ref_init() before insert the swap_info_struct
>> >> >> >>>> into the swap_info[].
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> If we remove the call to percpu_ref_exit(), we should not use percpu_ref_init()
>> >> >> >>> here because *percpu_ref->data is assumed to be NULL* in percpu_ref_init() while
>> >> >> >>> this is not the case as we do not call percpu_ref_exit(). Maybe percpu_ref_reinit()
>> >> >> >>> or percpu_ref_resurrect() will do the work.
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> One more thing, how could I distinguish the killed percpu_ref from newly allocated one?
>> >> >> >>> It seems percpu_ref_is_dying is only safe to call when @ref is between init and exit.
>> >> >> >>> Maybe I could do this in alloc_swap_info()?
>> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> Yes.  In alloc_swap_info(), you can distinguish newly allocated and
>> >> >> >> reused swap_info_struct.
>> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>>>> +}
>> >> >> >>>>>> +
>> >> >> >>>>>>  static void alloc_cluster(struct swap_info_struct *si, unsigned long idx)
>> >> >> >>>>>>  {
>> >> >> >>>>>>  	struct swap_cluster_info *ci = si->cluster_info;
>> >> >> >>>>>> @@ -2500,7 +2510,7 @@ static void enable_swap_info(struct swap_info_struct *p, int prio,
>> >> >> >>>>>>  	 * Guarantee swap_map, cluster_info, etc. fields are valid
>> >> >> >>>>>>  	 * between get/put_swap_device() if SWP_VALID bit is set
>> >> >> >>>>>>  	 */
>> >> >> >>>>>> -	synchronize_rcu();
>> >> >> >>>>>> +	percpu_ref_reinit(&p->users);
>> >> >> >>>>>
>> >> >> >>>>> Although the effect is same, I think it's better to use
>> >> >> >>>>> percpu_ref_resurrect() here to improve code readability.
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> Check the original commit description for commit eb085574a752 "mm, swap:
>> >> >> >>>> fix race between swapoff and some swap operations" and discussion email
>> >> >> >>>> thread as follows again,
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-mm/20171219053650.GB7829@linux.vnet.ibm.com/
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>> I found that the synchronize_rcu() here is to avoid to call smp_rmb() or
>> >> >> >>>> smp_load_acquire() in get_swap_device().  Now we will use
>> >> >> >>>> percpu_ref_tryget_live() in get_swap_device(), so we will need to add
>> >> >> >>>> the necessary memory barrier, or make sure percpu_ref_tryget_live() has
>> >> >> >>>> ACQUIRE semantics.  Per my understanding, we need to change
>> >> >> >>>> percpu_ref_tryget_live() for that.
>> >> >> >>>>
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> Do you mean the below scene is possible?
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> cpu1
>> >> >> >>> swapon()
>> >> >> >>>   ...
>> >> >> >>>   percpu_ref_init
>> >> >> >>>   ...
>> >> >> >>>   setup_swap_info
>> >> >> >>>   /* smp_store_release() is inside percpu_ref_reinit */
>> >> >> >>>   percpu_ref_reinit
>> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> spin_unlock() has RELEASE semantics already.
>> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >>>   ...
>> >> >> >>>
>> >> >> >>> cpu2
>> >> >> >>> get_swap_device()
>> >> >> >>>   /* ignored  smp_rmb() */
>> >> >> >>>   percpu_ref_tryget_live
>> >> >> >> 
>> >> >> >> Some kind of ACQUIRE is required here to guarantee the refcount is
>> >> >> >> checked before fetching the other fields of swap_info_struct.  I have
>> >> >> >> sent out a RFC patch to mailing list to discuss this.
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm just catching up and following along a little bit. I apologize I
>> >> > haven't read the swap code, but my understanding is you are trying to
>> >> > narrow a race condition with swapoff. That makes sense to me. I'm not
>> >> > sure I follow the need to race with reinitializing the ref though? Is it
>> >> > not possible to wait out the dying swap info and then create a new one
>> >> > rather than push acquire semantics?
>> >> 
>> >> We want to check whether the swap entry is valid (that is, the swap
>> >> device isn't swapped off now), prevent it from swapping off, then access
>> >> the swap_info_struct data structure.  When accessing swap_info_struct,
>> >> we want to guarantee the ordering, so that we will not reference
>> >> uninitialized fields of swap_info_struct.
>> >> 
>> >
>> > So in the normal context of percpu_ref, once someone can access it, the
>> > elements that it is protecting are expected to be initialized.
>> 
>> If we can make sure that all elements being initialized fully, why not
>> just use percpu_ref_get() instead of percpu_ref_tryget*()?
>> 
>
> Generally, the lookup is protected with rcu and then
> percpu_ref_tryget*() is used to obtain a reference. percpu_ref_get() is
> only good if you already have a ref as it increments regardless of being
> 0.
>
> What I mean is if you can get a ref, that means the object hasn't been
> destroyed. This differs from the semantics you are looking for which I
> understand to be: I have long lived pointers to objects. The object may
> die, but I may resurrect it and I want the old pointers to still be
> valid.
>
> When is it possible for someone to have a pointer to the swap device and
> the refcount goes to 0? It might be better to avoid this situation than
> add acquire semantics.
>
>> > In the basic case for swap off, I'm seeing the goal as to prevent
>> > destruction until anyone currently accessing swap is done. In this
>> > case wouldn't we always be protecting a live struct?
>> >
>> > I'm maybe not understanding what conditions you're trying to revive the
>> > percpu_ref?
>> 
>> A swap entry likes an indirect pointer to a swap device.  We may hold a
>> swap entry for long time, so that the swap device is swapoff/swapon.
>> Then we need to make sure the swap device are fully initialized before
>> accessing the swap device via the swap entry.
>> 
>
> So if I have some number of outstanding references, and then
> percpu_ref_kill() is called, then only those that have the pointer will
> be able to use the swap device as those references are still good. Prior
> to calling percpu_ref_kill(), call_rcu() needs to be called on lookup
> data structure.
>
> My personal understanding of tryget() vs tryget_live() is that it
> provides a 2 phase clean up and bounds the ability for new users to come
> in (cgroup destruction is a primary user). As tryget() might inevitably
> let a cgroup live long past its removal, tryget_live() will say oh
> you're in the process of dying do something else.

OK.  I think that I understand your typical use case now.  The resource
producer code may look like,

  obj = kmalloc();
  /* Initialize obj fields */
  percpu_ref_init(&obj->ref);
  rcu_assign_pointer(global_p, obj);

The resource reclaimer looks like,

  p = global_p;
  global_p = NULL;
  percpu_ref_kill(&p->ref);
  /* wait until percpu_ref_is_zero(&p->ref) */
  /* free resources pointed by obj fields */
  kfree(p);

The resource producer looks like,

  rcu_read_lock();
  p = rcu_dereference(global_p);
  if (!p || !percpu_ref_tryget_live(&p->ref)) {
          /* Invalid pointer, go out */
  }
  rcu_read_unlock();
  /* use p */
  percpu_ref_put(&p->ref);

For this use case, it's not necessary to make percpu_ref_tryget_live()
ACQUIRE operation.  Because refcount doesn't act as a flag to indicate
whether the object has been fully initialized, global_p does.  And
the data dependency guaranteed the required ordering.

The use case of swap is different.  Where global_p always points to
the obj (never freed) even if the resources pointed by obj fields has
been freed.  And we want to use refcount as a flag to indicate whether
the object is fully initialized.  This is hard to be changed, because
the global_p is used to identify the stalled pointer from the totally
invalid pointer.

If all other users follow the typical use case above, we may find some
other way to resolve the problem inside swap code, such as adding
smp_rmb() after percpu_ref_tryget_live().

Best Regards,
Huang, Ying