Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1030197AbWJRK74 (ORCPT ); Wed, 18 Oct 2006 06:59:56 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1030191AbWJRK7z (ORCPT ); Wed, 18 Oct 2006 06:59:55 -0400 Received: from outpipe-village-512-1.bc.nu ([81.2.110.250]:2783 "EHLO lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1030197AbWJRK7y (ORCPT ); Wed, 18 Oct 2006 06:59:54 -0400 Subject: Re: [PATCH] Undeprecate the sysctl system call From: Alan Cox To: "Eric W. Biederman" Cc: Cal Peake , Andrew Morton , Randy Dunlap , Jan Beulich , Kernel Mailing List In-Reply-To: References: <453519EE.76E4.0078.0@novell.com> <20061017091901.7193312a.rdunlap@xenotime.net> <1161123096.5014.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20061017150016.8dbad3c5.akpm@osdl.org> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 12:02:10 +0100 Message-Id: <1161169330.9363.11.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.2 (2.6.2-1.fc5.5) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1272 Lines: 35 Ar Maw, 2006-10-17 am 21:41 -0600, ysgrifennodd Eric W. Biederman: > > Signed-off-by: Cal Peake > > NAK on the grounds that it does not fix the related wording in sysctl.h Just post a patch to fix the wording > As for the rest of this I disagree with this direction as it is not > fixing the status quo, just attempting to maintain it. Good. That is how you manage system call interfaces. > The status quo is that we don't properly maintain sysctl.h and we arbitrarily > change the numbers. Not the core basic ones that are those people care about > It is wrong to maintain the status quo. Who is volunteering to step > up to the plate and maintain this thing? For the existing values as is that matter anyone can do it, because it just means not making a change. Its very simple: sysctl was a neat BSD syscall that turned out to be less ideal than using the fs for it. We added it, we supported it, we get to keep it. We just stick notes in the docs saying "please use /proc instead". Alan - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/