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McKenney wrote: > On Tue, Apr 27, 2021 at 06:37:46AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote: >> I suppose that I give it (say) 120 seconds instead of the current 60, >> which might be the right thing to do, but it does feel like papering >> over a very real initramfs problem. Alternatively, I could provide a >> boot parameter allowing those with slow systems to adjust as needed. > > OK, it turns out that there are systems for which boot times in excess > of one minute are expected behavior. They are a bit rare, though. > So what I will do is keep the 60-second default, add a boot parameter, > and also add a comment by the warning pointing out the boot parameter. Oh, no. This starts to become yet another duct tape horror show. I'm not at all against a more robust and resilent watchdog mechanism, but having a dozen knobs to tune and heuristics which are doomed to fail is not a solution at all. Thanks, tglx