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Wysocki" Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2021 11:57:52 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] pci: Support "removable" attribute for PCI devices To: Oliver Neukum Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" , David Laight , Rajat Jain , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Bjorn Helgaas , Alan Stern , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Linux PCI , "open list:ULTRA-WIDEBAND (UWB) SUBSYSTEM:" , Bjorn Helgaas , Rajat Jain , Jesse Barnes , Dmitry Torokhov Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Apr 29, 2021 at 11:03 AM Oliver Neukum wrote: > > Am Mittwoch, den 28.04.2021, 14:21 +0200 schrieb Rafael J. Wysocki: > > > In principle, in the wake of Thunderbolt every PCI driver handling > > PCIe devices needs to be able to deal with a device that's gone away > > without notice, because in principle any PCIe device can be included > > into a Thunderbolt docking station which may go away as a whole > > without notice. > > Yes, but we are dealing with what we export to user space, don't we? Right, so it would be good to know why exporting this information to user space is desired.