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Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 23:41:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: Giridhar Pemmasani <pgiri@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: incorrect taint of ndiswrapper
To: Chase Venters <chase.venters@clientec.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
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--- Chase Venters <chase.venters@clientec.com> wrote:

> On Monday 23 October 2006 00:40, Giridhar Pemmasani wrote:
> > It seems that the kernel module loader taints ndiswrapper module as
> > proprietary, but it is not - it is fully GPL: see
> > http://directory.fsf.org/sysadmin/hookup/ndiswrapper.html
> 
> Indeed. 'ndiswrapper' is intentionally tainted by kernel/module.c because
> it 
> is used to load and run unknown binary / proprietary code in kernel-space.
> If 
> this unknown binary / proprietary code were to contain a bug (which all
> code 
> of that complexity tends to), it might write to memory it doesn't own, or 
> coerce a device to do so on its behalf, making a kernel crash dump analysis
> 
> into a wild goose chase (hence the reason for kernel taint).

Yes, I agree on the purpose of tainting the kernel.

> > Note that when a driver is loaded, ndiswrapper does taint the kernel (to
> be
> > more accurate, it should check if the driver being loaded is GPL or not,
> > but that is not done).
> 
> Are you saying ndiswrapper voluntarily calls add_taint() whenever it loads
> an 
> NDIS driver?

Exactly - the loader within ndiswrapper taints kernel versions 2.6.10 and
newer (older kernels don't have a way of tainting the kernel). The code is in
loader.c in ndiswrapper.

> Are there even any examples of GPL-licensed NDIS drivers?

I don't remember off hand, but sometime back there was discussion on related
topic of weather ndiswrapper should be in debian-main or not, and someone
pointed out a GPL ndis driver. (BTW, after much discussion on debian devel
list, the developers agreed that ndiswrapper belongs in debian-main.)

Giri

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