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Subject: Re: [linux-nfc] [PATCH 1/2] MAINTAINERS: nfc: add Krzysztof Kozlowski
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To:     Mark Greer <mgreer@animalcreek.com>,
        Frieder Schrempf <frieder.schrempf@kontron.de>
Cc:     Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
        "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
        linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-nfc@lists.01.org,
        Alex Blasche <alexander.blasche@qt.io>
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From:   Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@canonical.com>
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Date:   Wed, 12 May 2021 16:21:25 -0400
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On 12/05/2021 13:01, Mark Greer wrote:
> On Wed, May 12, 2021 at 05:32:35PM +0200, Frieder Schrempf wrote:
>> On 12.05.21 16:43, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
>>> The NFC subsystem is orphaned.  I am happy to spend some cycles to
>>> review the patches, send pull requests and in general keep the NFC
>>> subsystem running.
>>
>> That's great, thanks!
>>
>> Maybe you also want to have a look at the userspace side and talk to Mark Greer (on cc). He recently said, that he is supposed to be taking over maintenance for the neard daemon (see this thread: [1]) which currently looks like it's close to being dead (no release for several years, etc.).
>>
>> I don't know much about the NFC stack and if/how people use it, but without reliable and maintained userspace tooling, the whole thing seems of little use in the long run. Qt has already dropped their neard support for Qt 6 [2], which basically means the mainline NFC stack won't be supported anymore in one of the most common application frameworks for IoT/embedded.
>>
>> [1] https://lists.01.org/hyperkitty/list/linux-nfc@lists.01.org/thread/OHD5IQHYPFUPUFYWDMNSVCBNO24M45VK/
>> [2] https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-81824
> 
> Re: QT - I've already talked to Alex Blasche from QT (CC'd).  With some
> work we can get Linux NFC/neard back into their good graces.  I/we need
> to find time to put in the work, though.
> 
> An example of the issues they have seen is:
> 
> 	https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-43802
> 
> Another issue I have--and I suspect you, Krzysztof, have as well--is
> lack of hardware.  If anyone reading this wants to volunteer to be a
> tester, please speak up.

Yes, testing would be very appreciated. I don't know how many unit tests
neard has, but maybe some mockups with unit testing would solve some of
problems?


Best regards,
Krzysztof