Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1752169AbWJ0Mwa (ORCPT ); Fri, 27 Oct 2006 08:52:30 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1752170AbWJ0Mwa (ORCPT ); Fri, 27 Oct 2006 08:52:30 -0400 Received: from cernmx04.cern.ch ([137.138.166.167]:5409 "EHLO cernmxlb.cern.ch") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1752169AbWJ0Mw3 (ORCPT ); Fri, 27 Oct 2006 08:52:29 -0400 Keywords: CERN SpamKiller Note: -51 Charset: west-latin X-Filter: CERNMX04 CERN MX v2.0 060921.0942 Release In-Reply-To: <1161901793.9087.110.camel@dv> References: <1161807069.3441.33.camel@dv> <1161808227.7615.0.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20061025205923.828c620d.akpm@osdl.org> <1161859199.12781.7.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1161890340.9087.28.camel@dv> <20061026214600.GL27968@stusta.de> <1161901793.9087.110.camel@dv> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Apple-Mail-80--1037251960" Message-Id: Cc: Adrian Bunk , Alan Cox , Andrew Morton , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Roland Kuhn Subject: Re: incorrect taint of ndiswrapper Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 14:52:21 +0200 To: Pavel Roskin X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 1.1.2 (Tiger) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Oct 2006 12:52:27.0379 (UTC) FILETIME=[C19D4C30:01C6F9C6] Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2461 Lines: 68 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --Apple-Mail-80--1037251960 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Hi Pavel! On 27 Oct 2006, at 00:29, Pavel Roskin wrote: >> EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL shows a pretty clear intention, and offering >> functionality provided throug h EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL'ed symbols to >> proprietary code sounds very fishy. > > Last time I checked, EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL was an indication that a code > using it will be considered as a work derived from Linux. This way, > ndiswrapper, which is free software, can be considered a derived work. > > NDIS drivers don't know about any Linux API, therefore they cannot use > it directly. The purpose of ndiswrapper is not to remove limitations > from the Linux API, but to present a completely different API. > Maybe everyone would be more happy if this "completely different API" would live at lower priviledge level, e.g. ring 1, so it could not screw up kernel internals? Is this technically possible? Maybe it's the same thing, but another way could be to run NDIS stuff inside a xen-like virtual environment... Has anyone tried yet? Ciao, Roland -- TU Muenchen, Physik-Department E18, James-Franck-Str., 85748 Garching Telefon 089/289-12575; Telefax 089/289-12570 -- CERN office: 892-1-D23 phone: +41 22 7676540 mobile: +41 76 487 4482 -- Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both. - Benjamin Franklin -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GS/CS/M/MU d-(++) s:+ a-> C+++ UL++++ P+++ L+++ E(+) W+ !N K- w--- M + !V Y+ PGP++ t+(++) 5 R+ tv-- b+ DI++ e+++>++++ h---- y+++ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ --Apple-Mail-80--1037251960 content-type: application/pgp-signature; x-mac-type=70674453; name=PGP.sig content-description: This is a digitally signed message part content-disposition: inline; filename=PGP.sig content-transfer-encoding: 7bit -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) iD8DBQFFQgEJI4MWO8QIRP0RAskeAJ4hQoohvLAk9EENes1KwIkQjhMiyQCcCXuE jQDKgFGEBlYcCCHXoP7nA7o= =xlhs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail-80--1037251960-- - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/