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From:   Guo Ren <guoren@kernel.org>
Date:   Sat, 22 May 2021 08:36:08 +0800
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 0/3] riscv: Add DMA_COHERENT support
To:     Anup Patel <anup@brainfault.org>
Cc:     Drew Fustini <drew@beagleboard.org>,
        Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
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On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 3:15 PM Anup Patel <anup@brainfault.org> wrote:
>
> On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 12:24 PM Drew Fustini <drew@beagleboard.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 08:06:17AM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > > On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 02:05:00PM +0800, Guo Ren wrote:
> > > > Since the existing RISC-V ISA cannot solve this problem, it is better
> > > > to provide some configuration for the SOC vendor to customize.
> > >
> > > We've been talking about this problem for close to five years.  So no,
> > > if you don't manage to get the feature into the ISA it can't be
> > > supported.
> >
> > Isn't it a good goal for Linux to support the capabilities present in
> > the SoC that a currently being fab'd?
> >
> > I believe the CMO group only started last year [1] so the RV64GC SoCs
> > that are going into mass production this year would not have had the
> > opporuntiy of utilizing any RISC-V ISA extension for handling cache
> > management.
>
> The current Linux RISC-V policy is to only accept patches for frozen or
> ratified ISA specs.
> (Refer, Documentation/riscv/patch-acceptance.rst)
>
> This means even if emulate CMO instructions in OpenSBI, the Linux
> patches won't be taken by Palmer because CMO specification is
> still in draft stage.
Before CMO specification release, could we use a sbi_ecall to solve
the current problem? This is not against the specification, when CMO
is ready we could let users choose to use the new CMO in Linux.

From a tech view, CMO trap emulation is the same as sbi_ecall.

>
> Also, we all know how much time it takes for RISCV international
> to freeze some spec. Judging by that we are looking at another
> 3-4 years at minimum.
>
> Regards,
> Anup


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Best Regards
 Guo Ren

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