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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 0/6] RTL8231 GPIO expander support
From:   Sander Vanheule <sander@svanheule.net>
To:     Andy Shevchenko <andy.shevchenko@gmail.com>
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On Tue, 2021-05-25 at 20:11 +0300, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 7:30 PM Andy Shevchenko
> <andy.shevchenko@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Mon, May 24, 2021 at 6:03 PM Sander Vanheule <sander@svanheule.net>
> > wrote:
> > > On Mon, 2021-05-24 at 15:54 +0300, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> 
> ...
> 
> > > Sadly, I don't. Most of the info we have comes from code archives of
> > > switch
> > > vendors (Zyxel, Cisco etc). Boards need to be reverse engineered, and the
> > > few
> > > leaked datasheets that can be found on the internet aren't exactly thick
> > > in
> > > information.
> > > 
> > > The RTL8231 datasheet is actually quite useful, but makes no mention of
> > > the
> > > output value isse. Since this isn't an official resource, I don't think it
> > > would
> > > be appropriate to link it via a Datasheet: tag.
> > > https://github.com/libc0607/Realtek_switch_hacking/blob/files/RTL8231_Datasheet_
> > > 1.2.pdf
> > > 
> > > Looking at the datasheet again, I came up with a... terrible hack to work
> > > around
> > > the output value issue.
> > > 
> > > The chip also has GPIO_INVERT registers that I hadn't used until now,
> > > because
> > > the logical inversion is handled in the kernel. However, these inversion
> > > registers only apply to the output values. So, I could implement glitch-
> > > free
> > > output behaviour in the following way:
> > >  * After chip reset, and before enabling the output driver (MFD
> > > initialisation):
> > >     - Mux all pins as GPIO
> > >     - Change all pins to outputs,
> > 
> > No. no, no. This is much worse than the glitches. You never know what
> > the hardware is connected there and it's potential breakage (on hw
> > level) possible.
> > 
> > >  so the data registers (0x1c-0x1e) become writable
> > >     - Write value 0 to all pins
> > >     - Change all pins to GPI to change them into high-Z
> > >  * In the pinctrl/gpio driver:
> > >     - Use data registers as input-only
> > >     - Use inversion register to determine output value (can be written any
> > > time)
> > > 
> > > The above gives glitch-free outputs, but the values that are read back
> > > (when
> > > configured as output), come from the data registers. They should now be
> > > coming
> > > from the inversion (reg_set_base) registers, but the code prefers to use
> > > the
> > > data registers (reg_dat_base).
> > 
> > Lemme read the datasheet and see if I find any clue for the hw behaviour.
> 
> Thank you for your patience!
> 
> Have you explored the possibility of using En_Sync_GPIO?

Got around to testing things.

If En_Sync_GPIO is enabled, it's still possible to change the pin direction
without also writing the Sync_GPIO bit. So even with the latching, glitches are
still produced.

As long as Sync_GPIO is not set to latch the new values, it also appears that
reads of the data registers result in the current output value, not the new one.

As a different test, I've added a pull-down, to make the input level low. Now I
see the opposite behaviour as before (with set-value-before-direction):
 * OUT-HIGH > IN (low) > OUT-LOW: results in a high level (i.e. old value)
 * OUT-HIGH > IN (low) > OUT-HIGH: results in a high level (new/old value)
 * OUT-LOW > IN (low) > OUT-HIGH: results in a high level (new value, or toggled
   old value?)
 * OUT-LOW > IN (low) > OUT-LOW: results in a low level (new/old value)

For reference, with a pull-up:
 * OUT-HIGH > IN (high) > OUT-HIGH: high result
 * OUT-HIGH > IN (high) > OUT-LOW: low result
 * OUT-LOW > IN (high) > OUT-HIGH: low result
 * OUT-LOW > IN (high) > OUT-LOW: low result

I've only tested this with the sysfs interface, so I don't know what the result
would be on multiple writes to the data register (during input, but probably not
very relevant). Nor have I tested direction changes if the input has changed
between two output values.

I may have some time tomorrow for more testing, but otherwise it'll have to wait
until the weekend. Any other ideas in the meantime?


Best,
Sander