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From:   Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
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Subject: Re: Maintainers / Kernel Summit 2021 planning kick-off
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On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 07:58:10AM -0700, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Thu, 2021-05-27 at 15:29 +0200, Greg KH wrote:
> > On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 03:23:03PM +0200, Christoph Lameter wrote:
> > > On Fri, 30 Apr 2021, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> > > 
> > > > I know we're all really hungry for some in-person meetups and
> > > > discussions, but at least for LPC, Kernel Summit, and
> > > > Maintainer's Summit, we're going to have to wait for another
> > > > year,
> > > 
> > > Well now that we are vaccinated: Can we still change it?
> > > 
> > 
> > Speak for yourself, remember that Europe and other parts of the world
> > are not as "flush" with vaccines as the US currently is :(
> 
> The rollout is accelerating in Europe.  At least in Germany, I know
> people younger than me are already vaccinated.  I think by the end of
> September the situation will be better ... especially if the EU and US
> agree on this air bridge (and the US actually agrees to let EU people
> in).
> 
> One of the things Plumbers is thinking of is having a meetup at what
> was OSS EU but which is now in Seattle.  The Maintainer's summit could
> do the same thing.  We couldn't actually hold Plumbers in Seattle
> because the hotels still had masks and distancing requirements for
> events that effectively precluded the collaborative aspects of
> microconferences, but evening events will be governed by local
> protocols, rather than the Hotel, which are already more relaxed.

Umm.  Let's remember that the vaccines are 33-93% effective [1],
which means that there's approximately a 100% certainty that at least
one person arriving at the event from a trans-atlantic flight has been
exposed to someone who has the virus.  I'm not convinced that holding a
"more relaxed protocol" event is a great idea.

[1] Depending exactly which vaccine, which variant, how many doses, etc, etc
https://www.sciencemediacentre.org/expert-reaction-to-preprint-from-phe-on-vaccine-effectiveness-against-the-b-1-617-2-indian-variant/