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On Sat Feb 13 09:51:17 CET 2021, Jernej =C5=A0krabec wrote:
> Let me first explain that it was oversight on my side not noticing initia=
ls in=20
> your SoB tag. But since the issue was raised by Maxime, I didn't follow u=
p.
> [...]

Dear Jernej,

First of all, thank you very much for all your linux-sunxi work: I=20
especially appreciate the video support you've provided.

Thank you for initially approving my patch. Although I first posted a=20
patch to the linux-sunxi list about seven years ago, this patch was my=20
first formal submission to LKML, so it meant a lot to me to see it=20
accepted by a kernel developer, even if only briefly.

I'm sorry for taking a long time to reply. I wanted to wait for the=20
maintainers to respond to my last mail because I thought it would be=20
best for them to speak for themselves on this issue. Sadly I haven't=20
yet received a response from them.


> I believe that real name means no initials, no matter what people are=20
> accustomed to. From my point of view, CJ is pseudonym derived from real n=
ame.

I don't think that's a widely held belief though. For example, I think=20
most people consider "J.R.R. Tolkien" to be a real name, even though it=20
contains initials. Also, a first name like CJ isn't necessarily derived=20
from some longer name like Cathy Jane, it can simply be the person's=20
given name. I'm grateful to Vagrant Cascadian for drawing our attention=20
to Patrick McKenzie's essay "Falsehoods Programmers Believe About Names".=
=20
I believe we harm Linux development when we exclude people whose names=20
don't fit our assumptions.

Another reason for signing with initials is to ensure that other people=20
cannot infer anything about the author's gender. Women especially might=20
choose to do this to avoid the harassment that a female name can attract,=
=20
as shown in these studies for example:

https://ece.umd.edu/news/story/study-finds-femalename-chat-users-get-25-tim=
es-more-malicious-messages
https://www.reach3insights.com/women-gaming-study

If we forbid people from contributing in a gender-neutral way, many may=20
feel they cannot contribute at all. Again, I think that when we exclude=20
these people we are all worse off as a result.


> Speaking generally, not only for this case, prior art arguments rarely ho=
ld,=20
> [...]
> This is not the first time that fix of SoB tag was requested, you can fin=
d such=20
> requests in ML archives.

Isn't that a prior art argument? ;-)

Best wishes,
B.R.


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