Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S965835AbWKEERp (ORCPT ); Sat, 4 Nov 2006 23:17:45 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S965837AbWKEERp (ORCPT ); Sat, 4 Nov 2006 23:17:45 -0500 Received: from mailout1.vmware.com ([65.113.40.130]:15781 "EHLO mailout1.vmware.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S965835AbWKEERo (ORCPT ); Sat, 4 Nov 2006 23:17:44 -0500 Message-ID: <454D65E8.3000409@vmware.com> Date: Sat, 04 Nov 2006 20:17:44 -0800 From: Zachary Amsden User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Benjamin LaHaise Cc: Chuck Ebbert <76306.1226@compuserve.com>, Linus Torvalds , Andi Kleen , linux-kernel Subject: Re: [rfc patch] i386: don't save eflags on task switch References: <200611040200_MC3-1-D04D-6EA3@compuserve.com> <454CE576.3000709@vmware.com> <20061105035556.GQ9057@kvack.org> In-Reply-To: <20061105035556.GQ9057@kvack.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1258 Lines: 28 Benjamin LaHaise wrote: > On Sat, Nov 04, 2006 at 11:09:42AM -0800, Zachary Amsden wrote: > >> Every processor I've ever measured it on, popf is slower. On P4, for >> example, pushf is 6 cycles, and popf is 54. On Opteron, it is 2 / 12. >> On Xeon, it is 7 / 91. >> > > pushf has to wait until all flag dependancies can be resolved. On the > P4 with >100 instructions in flight, that can take a long time. Popf > on the other hand has no dependancies on outstanding instructions as it > resets the machine state. > Yes, but as Linus points out popf is most likely microcoded, thus much slower. Flag dependency is not unique to pushf, many much more common instructions (adc, jcc, sbc, cmovcc, movs, stos, ...) have flag dependencies, which can still be pipeline forwarded. I think the raw cycle counts speak for themselves, despite the fact that I only measured instruction latency, not throughput. Using a branch to eliminate a pushf is thus probably not a win in most cases. Zach - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/