Received: by 2002:a05:6a10:206:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id 6csp4149889pxj; Tue, 8 Jun 2021 07:36:32 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzsrkF4/CMfNebCA01Rz/z22uqTcqnB8wBZmQCrKPdzBrhWpVLmC9Bq0kZZkFd4tU3FQ1IS X-Received: by 2002:a05:6402:1648:: with SMTP id s8mr26186240edx.256.1623162991917; Tue, 08 Jun 2021 07:36:31 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1623162991; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=DFeZLuqeYcPoL9f19h69S+5vDRkH6LJxAfnNIsbwYh/iMiPyu0p6vrc1pzKfsuPdtH CUNNJXX0eqXgn1oJmO6OJ6f5t64trv7x9M1wnoOrshePwlZgoYaxvxpG3xQbLnoLCvi0 K9ZCl6tCiOHX66IUe7HZLOqrCWqKSSj84dDmb30UxUxbGJfPZWH+GFGa05byzweIiYYd fM/EOF/uw9H2ab1+i0cPFYDoBhliOGTrEOI1IJX0GEUjeetCTQoVbFPor+fDRVYrgcxI ID+sGlPXLx4Xu6eREEbTbRSJpF7O/qkM8vhJn3dNU7ZPqj+NMiRGN+UMd3p7B6Fh/PUF JGCQ== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:user-agent:in-reply-to:content-disposition :mime-version:references:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date; bh=UebS1IJdrf98WsUN+x3la6cxK5kMlUIL6RFLtGyL2+8=; b=KIdBxXbGq+W/IEwCtoeHIWCKeHxguArBGsnPAM27syLlLISCl3yG0gnTAHZfhETgY+ iTr2lWn9nStoUudEQQgGLOvtRWPsA+a/h7QQMfI43AE+XkloQAztLRpxl6SUpPQe5nM6 YJviT9mDxLJv3MpeIESNwg2B6K4FM7h3KVNVR99h2uLTpOLlk78xoJD4YAwA52EI1StS aXjctT+FYsIOLqzVx1VYdYKIFvqK6r4QqaV0xUIJ5L7ThwBEQTODkHAmdTsLMxKSgyKe n3Eib02RpW0WTSZsXrTMjJ1eYsaYa2fvUhBJd6CX8YqwPfqhpVA8i8tr9+BcpVxOGqEK QJeg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id w6si13838304edl.187.2021.06.08.07.36.07; Tue, 08 Jun 2021 07:36:31 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S233412AbhFHOeC (ORCPT + 99 others); Tue, 8 Jun 2021 10:34:02 -0400 Received: from smtp-out1.suse.de ([195.135.220.28]:44410 "EHLO smtp-out1.suse.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S233448AbhFHOdi (ORCPT ); Tue, 8 Jun 2021 10:33:38 -0400 Received: from imap.suse.de (imap-alt.suse-dmz.suse.de [192.168.254.47]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp-out1.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7C61D219C1; Tue, 8 Jun 2021 14:31:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from imap3-int (imap-alt.suse-dmz.suse.de [192.168.254.47]) by imap.suse.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23A03118DD; Tue, 8 Jun 2021 14:31:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from director2.suse.de ([192.168.254.72]) by imap3-int with ESMTPSA id kUhXOEZ/v2D8DwAALh3uQQ (envelope-from ); Tue, 08 Jun 2021 14:31:34 +0000 Date: Tue, 8 Jun 2021 07:31:26 -0700 From: Davidlohr Bueso To: Peter Zijlstra Cc: Greg KH , Andrey Semashev , Nicholas Piggin , =?utf-8?B?QW5kcsOvwr/CvQ==?= Almeida , acme@kernel.org, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior , corbet@lwn.net, Darren Hart , fweimer@redhat.com, joel@joelfernandes.org, kernel@collabora.com, krisman@collabora.com, libc-alpha@sourceware.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org, malteskarupke@fastmail.fm, Ingo Molnar , pgriffais@valvesoftware.com, Peter Oskolkov , Steven Rostedt , shuah@kernel.org, Thomas Gleixner , z.figura12@gmail.com Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 00/15] Add futex2 syscalls Message-ID: <20210608143126.xd6fvtdnoq6annq7@offworld> References: <1622799088.hsuspipe84.astroid@bobo.none> <1622853816.mokf23xgnt.astroid@bobo.none> <6d8e3bb4-0cef-b991-9a16-1f03d10f131d@gmail.com> <1622980258.cfsuodze38.astroid@bobo.none> <1623114630.pc8fq7r5y9.astroid@bobo.none> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: NeoMutt/20201120 Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, 08 Jun 2021, Peter Zijlstra wrote: >On Tue, Jun 08, 2021 at 01:13:30PM +0200, Greg KH wrote: >> On Tue, Jun 08, 2021 at 02:03:50PM +0300, Andrey Semashev wrote: >> So what's keeping the futex2 code from doing all that futex1 does so >> that the futex1 code can be deleted internally? > >I'd much rather see it the other way around. Much of what futex2 does >can already be done with the futex1 code-base. And then we can add >features on top. Yeah furthermore, how can futex2 be thought of replacing futex1 in the future when the PI aspects haven't even been mentioned? Thanks, Davidlohr