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[23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id j15si2849502edq.337.2021.06.10.11.42.39; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 11:43:03 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass (test mode) header.i=@ideasonboard.com header.s=mail header.b=R351bkpH; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S231358AbhFJSmH (ORCPT + 99 others); Thu, 10 Jun 2021 14:42:07 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:45382 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S230086AbhFJSmG (ORCPT ); Thu, 10 Jun 2021 14:42:06 -0400 Received: from perceval.ideasonboard.com (perceval.ideasonboard.com [IPv6:2001:4b98:dc2:55:216:3eff:fef7:d647]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CCF00C061574; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 11:40:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pendragon.ideasonboard.com (62-78-145-57.bb.dnainternet.fi [62.78.145.57]) by perceval.ideasonboard.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5A8BE8D4; Thu, 10 Jun 2021 20:40:07 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=ideasonboard.com; s=mail; t=1623350407; bh=3OnZB1761PB+ay2D9PLynmCjGhCXhNjzmmTAaqHSDKk=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=R351bkpH3ApWxPQMlPcqE/s2/L58xwMdjvOStsdVnFG3jNwq00tuRSaQ+WrbLfOvr tIRfRcMfwoIp02htQIoKPDdp00AtXBtVgB5F7dNzRX6B8yxo8VObb8hsFjgR0ZNFbb 67HEIO/yoCNzyOJbl3Qac5R4BVddQTQi+0vTaGgc= Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2021 21:39:49 +0300 From: Laurent Pinchart To: Konstantin Ryabitsev Cc: "Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult" , David Hildenbrand , James Bottomley , Greg KH , Christoph Lameter , Theodore Ts'o , Jiri Kosina , ksummit@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: Maintainers / Kernel Summit 2021 planning kick-off Message-ID: References: <5038827c-463f-232d-4dec-da56c71089bd@metux.net> <20210610182318.jrxe3avfhkqq7xqn@nitro.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20210610182318.jrxe3avfhkqq7xqn@nitro.local> Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 02:23:18PM -0400, Konstantin Ryabitsev wrote: > On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 08:07:55PM +0200, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult wrote: > > On 09.06.21 12:37, David Hildenbrand wrote: > > > On 28.05.21 16:58, James Bottomley wrote: > > *moderator hat on* > > I'm requesting that all vaccine talk is restricted solely to how it would > impact international travel to/from ksummit. Which will largely be set by governments, travel companies and conference venues, so there's probably very little to discuss on that topic. The topic of how to best organize hybrid events to maximize inclusiveness for remote participants is more interesting to me. LPC did an amazing job last year with the fully remote setup, but a hybrid setup brings new challenges. One issue I've previously experienced in hybrid setups, especially for brainstorming-type discussions, was that on-site attendees can very quickly break out conversations in small groups (it's an issue for fully on-site events too). Session leads should be aware of the need to ensure even more than usual that all speakers use microphones. I don't think we need to go as far as specific training on these topics, but emphasizing the importance of moderation would be useful in my opinion. There will always be more informal discussions between on-site participants. After all, this is one of the benefits of conferences, by being all together we can easily organize ad-hoc discussions. This is traditionally done by finding a not too noisy corner in the conference center, would it be useful to have more break-out rooms with A/V equipment than usual ? -- Regards, Laurent Pinchart