Received: by 2002:a05:6a10:206:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id 6csp1656074pxj; Sat, 12 Jun 2021 16:12:36 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwlIxDl4qRnG3QUxiYZBU0AB4CMUzDsYVsgtQ+3+qOkTnwAKH3ETzilUxO9AL+0GCBZGHum X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:9486:: with SMTP id t6mr8995169ejx.271.1623539556379; Sat, 12 Jun 2021 16:12:36 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1623539556; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=q1OVMIJolywftfTrqxf+xdXqje1q7IEIY357WV+t0Js/GVG/M19gLOvL48iUEt8W71 4BtI8F4zBL0SsahsP008RNkS6pDDOG1WN6vnzfXXfxC3DRLnRPdAZdYSltmvsyPLAYDl VPQ6tk6EBVnjCD6m5xpWvm0OiqR7iVpX4RvTpz79XtoVw9PMsgHLpE8qC6VIeTzTV3DQ n5te0lVfKtk9k6Vu/ElNluiuU+parUTuPXpNWIGgddR56vcLQ/47caHy4mDEHRGjGYIX wNIZBHAueHejlDQWLP35BGHoQ/wU7O/Ore0NirUbj1kAXSn7JJXvTbiguqFkY5f0+tCX tNAw== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date; bh=PoVh3K5+6VRuSKfKv42al+wCOsANXw/CxxnKUy/efN8=; b=Z+sAAI5WiMUb0jZonfTEJen/WsHnMQw6cLJdRUyqh7s8XkeHuuc/kYNbm8zGXjUnAu 2CHExBq8Z9Du0rgX9V40gP03GB+Sz96WPqVGFo8d8R7PectqyQyVnUpDA874+Qi9FAKV XOuQNiUef3SZNVrL6qNJXNPRrj0XgB8WzJosgTj26FvLMIZ2P6ZFk96T6Bs4BqwCJImY +NVWXkwUsswRdDhzn4b2pOtQi25MznBt5WYRufbACZ/I9l1V88oEsrkUjc4NmyXPv9C+ vc1f4C8HE/pKMGStcBT/gN/hd9uVuaVWCoiIPXy0JGX6r16+8yoAskuKzCLJwfLsh6Cg TvAg== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id w5si7854040edd.540.2021.06.12.16.12.02; Sat, 12 Jun 2021 16:12:36 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S231417AbhFLXIp (ORCPT + 99 others); Sat, 12 Jun 2021 19:08:45 -0400 Received: from mail.kernel.org ([198.145.29.99]:41192 "EHLO mail.kernel.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229753AbhFLXIo (ORCPT ); Sat, 12 Jun 2021 19:08:44 -0400 Received: from rorschach.local.home (cpe-66-24-58-225.stny.res.rr.com [66.24.58.225]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E991D611AD; Sat, 12 Jun 2021 23:06:42 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2021 19:06:41 -0400 From: Steven Rostedt To: Daniel Bristot de Oliveira Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Phil Auld , Sebastian Andrzej Siewior , Kate Carcia , Jonathan Corbet , Ingo Molnar , Peter Zijlstra , Thomas Gleixner , Alexandre Chartre , Clark Willaims , John Kacur , Juri Lelli , linux-doc@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 9/9] tracing: Add timerlat tracer Message-ID: <20210612190641.4dc6dce0@rorschach.local.home> In-Reply-To: <6808245d-208c-c6d2-1c6e-7410df158992@redhat.com> References: <20210607213639.68aad064@gandalf.local.home> <20210611160340.6970e10c@gandalf.local.home> <6808245d-208c-c6d2-1c6e-7410df158992@redhat.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.8 (GTK+ 2.24.33; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 11:41:41 +0200 Daniel Bristot de Oliveira wrote: > > I think the above may be easier to understand, especially if the trace > > output that represents it is below. > > ok, I can try to capture a trace sample and represent it into the ASCII art > format above. Why capture it? Just fudge an example that fits the example ;-) > > > Also, I have to ask, shouldn't the "thread noise" really start at the > > "External clock event"? > > To go in that direction, we need to track things that delayed the IRQ execution. [snip long explanation of the obvious (to me at least) ;-) ] > the overhead is acceptable because of the sound analysis of the scheduling bound > (which is rooted in a formal specification & analysis of the system). I meant, that it needs to be documented, what the real thread noise is but due to what is available it may not be truly accurate. -- Steve