Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1753768AbWKGWY1 (ORCPT ); Tue, 7 Nov 2006 17:24:27 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1753773AbWKGWY1 (ORCPT ); Tue, 7 Nov 2006 17:24:27 -0500 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net ([216.148.227.151]:31636 "EHLO rwcrmhc11.comcast.net") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753768AbWKGWY0 (ORCPT ); Tue, 7 Nov 2006 17:24:26 -0500 Message-ID: <455104C9.4040901@wolfmountaingroup.com> Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2006 15:12:25 -0700 From: "Jeff V. Merkey" User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050921 Red Hat/1.7.12-1.4.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bernd Petrovitsch CC: Pavel Machek , Petr Baudis , Linux kernel Subject: Re: Faustian Pact between Novell and Microsoft References: <454A7BBB.10403@wolfmountaingroup.com> <20061103014907.GG11916@pasky.or.cz> <454AB477.9040107@wolfmountaingroup.com> <20061107081826.GD21655@elf.ucw.cz> <1162894662.19866.15.camel@tara.firmix.at> <4550BA59.1000701@wolfmountaingroup.com> <1162937650.3408.2.camel@gimli.at.home> In-Reply-To: <1162937650.3408.2.camel@gimli.at.home> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1740 Lines: 63 Bernd Petrovitsch wrote: >On Tue, 2006-11-07 at 09:54 -0700, Jeff V. Merkey wrote: > > >>Bernd Petrovitsch wrote: >> >> >> >>>On Tue, 2006-11-07 at 09:18 +0100, Pavel Machek wrote: >>>[...] >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>This is a watershed moment for Linux. It fundamentally changes the >>>>rules of the game. We're really excited about this deal, and we hope >>>>you are too. >>>> >>>> >>>>(from http://www.novell.com/linux/microsoft/openletter.html) only make >>>>it worse, but acquisition? I'd hope not even mickey$oft has enough >>>>cash for _that_. >>>> >>>> >[...] > > >>>And the first point in the list is "patents" .... >>> >>> >[...] > > >>I can see the lights are coming on now for some folks now. >> >> > >How many patenst does Novell have? Do they play in the "more than 1000 >trivial, prior art and software patents" league like M$? >So from Novell's point of view it is probably somewhat a cross-licensing >deal. >"What does M$ really gain from it?" is the interesting question. > > Bernd > > The Pike patent from the USL acquisition is the one Microsoft most wanted to get their hands on, as well as the SMP patents. The Pike patent controls overlapping Windows. M$ has wanted to get clear of it for some time. With the cross license from Novell, they are home free. Novell has a large number of networking and directory patents. Not quite 1000, but they have some very good ones on SMP, clustering, and form the USL acquisition. Jeff - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/