Received: by 2002:a05:6a10:206:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id 6csp3596220pxj; Tue, 15 Jun 2021 04:35:23 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxQNms1hLB5MJBKnU8K26XrQ/pqcJEAYz2OoThlzWXzsi9J1E6lqInahXnC2S038CRsK/wD X-Received: by 2002:a92:c9ce:: with SMTP id k14mr17811401ilq.99.1623756923678; Tue, 15 Jun 2021 04:35:23 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1623756923; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=FkXBhu4Hfbv9aZ3dpxmjzpBb21gC/oTalxGpmXIl//PHjxS995c44jOHHXk7a/GICP 5y0SI8DFVPSHCg/5SHF8z7oVHeqkffeh4/sm1gL/XSs+Z/9V6MTeIOhEUdGID0OEeRs0 DpHYDABc8FmdHZ0wZclZG8Cboax9xnG3x5dCqHOZ7wZ5Ck4QZeGbn+QKSFALCE+Xlw+K z/bs4eyusd7XYr3XvRSmLu9RsA4Zc0PJGSDybj92oxlPzcPBdphGEzI4C82VQAwPtl1N 22L1qQqZ/X3DCK6zdvJAy7xN+OQYiXiWtTLtQ3XqDwOxSDluY/t40PICz8ScvdWukj24 uzyw== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:in-reply-to:content-disposition:mime-version :references:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date:dkim-signature; bh=9+5iyCctCQAgAcMSlpqZHL0gJCffhwjZ3OGMh8bKo40=; b=AD1bkpwkXJbP20DD8p7KeqbaJI7M6XJWSyoOb4Tq3+f2Qzqor5zKdh7toLj47Xuwhb az6YQRIa0c/rdJm2AL1yp03DgD1ZdDTZD+QC+Xmqv9PItR/JTR4hJS79o1kY+6qcP1x0 /2c/Iua5F9blI1/nlO91hpyQySwx7l/K0gSt0SNysNhorqOvmCjGYpuEbYWz1hJk7TSu 8d9XR0NGL7M0kShkrPntNJw/4ttNw67mjIfyV+/TRdBjTxjqnqhERFB/xGQQDWONlQhR CG6KmSM257eyhZQxKII+/jcNK7xXM0gUGhXTNRB0HwJFLjW0QAuS8TcOuHSgwYdKAdpk 5zaA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@linuxfoundation.org header.s=korg header.b=N8n6QFnm; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=linuxfoundation.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id d12si18927313jam.9.2021.06.15.04.35.11; Tue, 15 Jun 2021 04:35:23 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@linuxfoundation.org header.s=korg header.b=N8n6QFnm; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=linuxfoundation.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S229869AbhFOLfr (ORCPT + 99 others); Tue, 15 Jun 2021 07:35:47 -0400 Received: from mail.kernel.org ([198.145.29.99]:53688 "EHLO mail.kernel.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S230076AbhFOLfT (ORCPT ); Tue, 15 Jun 2021 07:35:19 -0400 Received: by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3A17861107; Tue, 15 Jun 2021 11:33:13 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=linuxfoundation.org; s=korg; t=1623756793; bh=9+5iyCctCQAgAcMSlpqZHL0gJCffhwjZ3OGMh8bKo40=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To:From; b=N8n6QFnmPCBQJLYEwXZU4Th9ZC5sPFSgloEeM8cVIXRvvy4duwk/mcF+BQ/0vimUB /76YgsgTvguKFo/Ca0eAn7Iv+vzx4cugVCczPOGQw9c6c/1ax+jaxS15zB15aVAguH url8LPWa2zGRURNYcoQyjDvY5YX2oMD7gXwekV4U= Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 13:33:11 +0200 From: Greg KH To: "Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult" Cc: "Eric W. Biederman" , Christian Brauner , Hannes Reinecke , containers@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: device namespaces Message-ID: References: <877dj4ff9g.fsf@disp2133> <20210609063818.xnod4rzvti3ujkvn@wittgenstein> <20210609072108.ldhsxfnfql4pacqx@wittgenstein> <85a0d777-dea6-9574-8946-9fc8f912c1af@suse.de> <20210609080918.ma2klvxkjad4pjrn@wittgenstein> <87v96k1d65.fsf@disp2133> <874ke0s60c.fsf@disp2133> <2bee9206-ca4a-8456-fabf-9557db599545@metux.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <2bee9206-ca4a-8456-fabf-9557db599545@metux.net> Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 01:24:24PM +0200, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult wrote: > @Greg: what's your take on that iterator idea ? I want you to stop talking about ideas, and try to implement them before this conversation wastes anyone else's time and energy. There is a good reason we do not do this type of "let's discuss things!" in the kernel community, and that is because almost none of it matters without working code. So please, let's see some patches that implement your ideas and then we can discuss them. Until then, consider this thread ignored from me. greg k-h