Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1030210AbWKHQAc (ORCPT ); Wed, 8 Nov 2006 11:00:32 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1030213AbWKHQAc (ORCPT ); Wed, 8 Nov 2006 11:00:32 -0500 Received: from mga01.intel.com ([192.55.52.88]:57487 "EHLO mga01.intel.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1030210AbWKHQAa (ORCPT ); Wed, 8 Nov 2006 11:00:30 -0500 X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: i="4.09,401,1157353200"; d="scan'208"; a="160127307:sNHT307653199" Message-ID: <4551FEFD.2060002@intel.com> Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2006 07:59:57 -0800 From: Auke Kok User-Agent: Mail/News 1.5.0.7 (X11/20060918) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Theodore Tso , Auke Kok , Pavel Machek , "Robin H. Johnson" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: e1000/ICH8LAN weirdness - no ethtool link until initially forced up References: <20061106013153.GN15897@curie-int.orbis-terrarum.net> <20061107071449.GB21655@elf.ucw.cz> <4550AB7A.10508@intel.com> <20061107193518.GA26579@thunk.org> In-Reply-To: <20061107193518.GA26579@thunk.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Nov 2006 15:59:57.0909 (UTC) FILETIME=[F068F050:01C7034E] Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 861 Lines: 21 Theodore Tso wrote: > On Tue, Nov 07, 2006 at 07:51:22AM -0800, Auke Kok wrote: >> Your application should really `ifconfig up` the device before checking for >> link. > > And for those of us with laptops, application authors should do an > "ifconfig down" the device if it doesn't find a link. Right now > thanks to such applications on my desktop, I boot with e1000 > blacklisted so I can run in low-power mode when on a laptop. > > BTW, it would be nice if the e1000 driver could be more safely > unloaded when it is built as a module. I'm not aware of unload issues, what is the problem that you have? Auke - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/