Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932793AbWKHVdS (ORCPT ); Wed, 8 Nov 2006 16:33:18 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S932790AbWKHVdS (ORCPT ); Wed, 8 Nov 2006 16:33:18 -0500 Received: from smtp.osdl.org ([65.172.181.4]:55170 "EHLO smtp.osdl.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1423792AbWKHVdR (ORCPT ); Wed, 8 Nov 2006 16:33:17 -0500 Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2006 13:33:13 -0800 From: Stephen Hemminger To: Auke Kok Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: General network driver suspend/resume (was e1000 carrier related) Message-ID: <20061108133313.20ea5f7c@freekitty> In-Reply-To: <455247DA.3090406@intel.com> References: <20061106013153.GN15897@curie-int.orbis-terrarum.net> <20061107071449.GB21655@elf.ucw.cz> <4550AB7A.10508@intel.com> <20061108120407.GA9506@elf.ucw.cz> <20061108115414.7e089a58@freekitty> <455247DA.3090406@intel.com> Organization: OSDL X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.5.0-rc3 (GTK+ 2.10.6; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2741 Lines: 77 On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 13:10:50 -0800 Auke Kok wrote: > Stephen Hemminger wrote: > > On Wed, 8 Nov 2006 13:04:07 +0100 > > Pavel Machek wrote: > > > >> Hi! > >> > >>>>> This behavior differs from every other network card, and is also present > >>>>> in the > >>>>> 7.3* version of the driver from sourceforge. > >>>>> > >>>>> I think the e1000 should try to raise the link during the probe, so that > >>>>> it > >>>>> works properly, without having to set ifconfig ethX up first. > >>>> I think you should cc e1000 maintainers, and perhaps provide a patch.... > >>> I've read it and not come up with an answer due to some other issues at > >>> hand. E1000 hardware works differently and this has been asked before, but > >>> the cards itself are in low power state when down. Changing this to bring > >>> up the link would make the card start to consume lots more power, which > >>> would automatically suck enormously for anyone using a laptop. > >> Well, maybe E1000 should behave as the other cards behave, and > >> different solution needs to be found for power saving? ifconfig eth0 > >> suspend? > >> > >> Pavel > >> > >> > > > > The standard which all network drivers should use is: > > > > module insertion: > > start in initial powerdown state > > > > open: > > power up, bring up link > > > > stop: > > bring down link > > return to powerdown state unless WOL is set. > > if doing WOL go to lowest power sensing state > > > > suspend: > > same as stop > > > > resume: > > same as open > > > > module removal: > > stop already called so device should be in power down state. > > > > > > Since suspend is basically same as stop, and resume is open > > I am going to investigate doing suspend/resume in the network device layer > > (unless subclassed by driver), so we can rip out the suspend/resume hook > > from many network drivers. There will still be boards like sky2 > > that need own suspend/resume to deal with dual port etc. > > > beware that e1000 needs to save pci msi config space on top of the normal pci config > space. Perhaps this needs to be fixed upstream in pci_save_state for msi devices, but > the api for msi is not capable of detecting this atm. > pci_config save needs to save more (including all the pci express stuff). But until the mmconfig issues are fixed on x86_64 that will be impossible. Maybe the last fix will solve the problem. -- Stephen Hemminger - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/