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Biederman) To: Linus Torvalds Cc: Michael Schmitz , linux-arch , Jens Axboe , Oleg Nesterov , Al Viro , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Richard Henderson , Ivan Kokshaysky , Matt Turner , alpha , Geert Uytterhoeven , linux-m68k , Arnd Bergmann , Ley Foon Tan , Tejun Heo , Kees Cook References: <87sg1p30a1.fsf@disp2133> <87pmwsytb3.fsf@disp2133> <87sg1lwhvm.fsf@disp2133> <6e47eff8-d0a4-8390-1222-e975bfbf3a65@gmail.com> <924ec53c-2fd9-2e1c-bbb1-3fda49809be4@gmail.com> <87eed4v2dc.fsf@disp2133> <5929e116-fa61-b211-342a-c706dcb834ca@gmail.com> <87fsxjorgs.fsf@disp2133> <87zgvqor7d.fsf_-_@disp2133> <87mtrpg47k.fsf@disp2133> <87pmwlek8d.fsf_-_@disp2133> <87k0mtek4n.fsf_-_@disp2133> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2021 15:57:19 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Linus Torvalds's message of "Wed, 16 Jun 2021 13:37:29 -0700") Message-ID: <878s398r4g.fsf@disp2133> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-XM-SPF: eid=1ltcbF-00HDkM-UZ;;;mid=<878s398r4g.fsf@disp2133>;;;hst=in01.mta.xmission.com;;;ip=68.227.160.95;;;frm=ebiederm@xmission.com;;;spf=neutral X-XM-AID: U2FsdGVkX1/LF91xWCnMbfZu757yY8QEIXk7UwFgnxc= X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 68.227.160.95 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: ebiederm@xmission.com X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on sa07.xmission.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.0 required=8.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_50, DCC_CHECK_NEGATIVE,T_TM2_M_HEADER_IN_MSG,T_TooManySym_01,XMNoVowels, XMSubLong autolearn=disabled version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Report: * -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP * 0.8 BAYES_50 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 40 to 60% * [score: 0.5000] * 1.5 XMNoVowels Alpha-numberic number with no vowels * 0.7 XMSubLong Long Subject * 0.0 T_TM2_M_HEADER_IN_MSG BODY: No description available. * -0.0 DCC_CHECK_NEGATIVE Not listed in DCC * [sa07 1397; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1] * 0.0 T_TooManySym_01 4+ unique symbols in subject X-Spam-DCC: XMission; sa07 1397; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-Spam-Combo: **;Linus Torvalds X-Spam-Relay-Country: X-Spam-Timing: total 436 ms - load_scoreonly_sql: 0.04 (0.0%), signal_user_changed: 10 (2.4%), b_tie_ro: 9 (2.1%), parse: 0.91 (0.2%), extract_message_metadata: 11 (2.6%), get_uri_detail_list: 1.14 (0.3%), tests_pri_-1000: 15 (3.4%), tests_pri_-950: 1.20 (0.3%), tests_pri_-900: 0.99 (0.2%), tests_pri_-90: 149 (34.3%), check_bayes: 148 (33.9%), b_tokenize: 7 (1.7%), b_tok_get_all: 7 (1.6%), b_comp_prob: 2.2 (0.5%), b_tok_touch_all: 127 (29.2%), b_finish: 0.90 (0.2%), tests_pri_0: 234 (53.7%), check_dkim_signature: 0.59 (0.1%), check_dkim_adsp: 2.8 (0.6%), poll_dns_idle: 0.95 (0.2%), tests_pri_10: 2.2 (0.5%), tests_pri_500: 7 (1.7%), rewrite_mail: 0.00 (0.0%) Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] alpha/ptrace: Record and handle the absence of switch_stack X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Sat, 08 Feb 2020 21:53:50 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on in01.mta.xmission.com) Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Linus Torvalds writes: > On Wed, Jun 16, 2021 at 1:00 PM Linus Torvalds > wrote: >> >> And even for debugging, I think it would be both easier and cheaper to >> just add a magic word to the entry stack instead. > > IOW, just add a > > unsigned long magic; > > to "struct switch_stack", and then make the stack switch code push that value. > > That would be cheap enough to be just unconditional, but you could > make it depend on a debug config option too, of course. > > It helps if 'xyz' is some constant that is easyish to generate. It > might not be a constant - maybe it could be the address of that > 'magic' field itself, so you'd just generate it with > > stq $r,($r) > > and it would be equally easy to just validate at lookup for that WARN_ON_ONCE(): > > WARN_ON_ONCE(switch_stack->magic != (unsigned long)&switch_stack->magic); > > or whatever. > > It's for debugging, not security. So it doesn't have to be some kind > of super-great magic number, just something easy to generate and check > (that isn't a common value like "0" that trivially exist on the stack > anyway). Fair enough. I was thinking for a moment that do_sigreturn might have a problem with that but restore_sigcontext makes it clear that struct switch_stack is not exposed to userspace. Do you know if struct switch_stack or pt_regs is ever exposeed to usespace? They are both defined in arch/alpha/include/uapi/asm/ptrace.h which makes me think userspace must see those definitions somewhere. Eric