Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754804AbWKIJ0p (ORCPT ); Thu, 9 Nov 2006 04:26:45 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754803AbWKIJ0p (ORCPT ); Thu, 9 Nov 2006 04:26:45 -0500 Received: from pentafluge.infradead.org ([213.146.154.40]:2481 "EHLO pentafluge.infradead.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1754804AbWKIJ0o (ORCPT ); Thu, 9 Nov 2006 04:26:44 -0500 Subject: Re: A proposal; making 2.6.20 a bugfix only version. From: Arjan van de Ven To: Andrew Morton Cc: Jesper Juhl , Linus Torvalds , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Adrian Bunk In-Reply-To: <20061108145150.80ceebf4.akpm@osdl.org> References: <9a8748490611081409x6b4cc4b4lc52b91c7b7b237a6@mail.gmail.com> <1163024531.3138.406.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20061108145150.80ceebf4.akpm@osdl.org> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Intel International BV Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2006 10:26:41 +0100 Message-Id: <1163064401.3138.472.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1.1 (2.8.1.1-3.fc6) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SRS-Rewrite: SMTP reverse-path rewritten from by pentafluge.infradead.org See http://www.infradead.org/rpr.html Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1376 Lines: 36 On Wed, 2006-11-08 at 14:51 -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: > On Wed, 08 Nov 2006 23:22:11 +0100 > Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > > > - A while back, akpm made some statements about being worried that the > > > 2.6 kernel is getting buggier > > > (http://news.zdnet.com/2100-3513_22-6069363.html). > > > > and at this years Kernel Summit actual data > > Not true. 70% of surveyed users had hit a new kernel bug. 70% of surveyed users hit ANY kernel bug. Not "new bugs" Including "my new wizzbang hardware doesn't work" and "I'll try something new, oh looky a 4 year old bug" and "this new feature isn't quite mature yet now that I try it". One of the things that happened was during early 2.6 udev broke left and right ABI wise. We've gotten a lot better at that, and that's the kind of bug that hits a really wide audience. Statistics can be misleading ... bigtime. 83% of the people also said things were not getting less reliable in 2.6. -- if you want to mail me at work (you don't), use arjan (at) linux.intel.com Test the interaction between Linux and your BIOS via http://www.linuxfirmwarekit.org - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/