Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S966044AbWKIVLT (ORCPT ); Thu, 9 Nov 2006 16:11:19 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S966058AbWKIVLT (ORCPT ); Thu, 9 Nov 2006 16:11:19 -0500 Received: from mailout.stusta.mhn.de ([141.84.69.5]:13327 "HELO mailout.stusta.mhn.de") by vger.kernel.org with SMTP id S966044AbWKIVLS (ORCPT ); Thu, 9 Nov 2006 16:11:18 -0500 Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2006 22:11:21 +0100 From: Adrian Bunk To: Arjan van de Ven Cc: Andrew Morton , Jesper Juhl , Linus Torvalds , Linux Kernel Mailing List Subject: Re: A proposal; making 2.6.20 a bugfix only version. Message-ID: <20061109211121.GW4729@stusta.de> References: <9a8748490611081409x6b4cc4b4lc52b91c7b7b237a6@mail.gmail.com> <1163024531.3138.406.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20061108145150.80ceebf4.akpm@osdl.org> <1163064401.3138.472.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20061109013645.7bef848d.akpm@osdl.org> <1163065920.3138.486.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <20061109111212.eee33367.akpm@osdl.org> <1163100115.3138.524.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1163100115.3138.524.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 2263 Lines: 59 On Thu, Nov 09, 2006 at 08:21:55PM +0100, Arjan van de Ven wrote: > On Thu, 2006-11-09 at 11:12 -0800, Andrew Morton wrote: > > On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 10:52:00 +0100 > > Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > > > > Do you have the > > > impression that high quality bug reports on lkml (with this I mean ones > > > where there is sufficient information, which are not a request for > > > support and where the reporter actually answers questions that are asked > > > him) are not getting reasonable attention? > > > > Yes. > > > > And why does the report quality matter? > > because it matters where people spend their time. And if you count > bugreports that are actually distro support questions and then say "but > these aren't looked at" it's not fair either. > > > If there's insufficient info you > > just ask for more. > > and that does happen. And half the time people just remain silent :( > I know I look at a whole bunch of bugreports in areas that I work on. I > see a lot of other people doing something similar. That doesn't mean > nothing slips through. I'm sure stuff does slip through. I would HOPE > it's really obscure things only; but I fear it's also cases where the > reporter didn't put the right people on the CC as well ;( >... There are bad bug reports, but not all bug reports are that bad. What if the quality of the bug report is good and the submitter is responsive, and there's still zero reaction? Let's make an example: Since the first list I sent immediately after 2.6.19-rc1 was released, kernel Bugzilla #7255 is part of my list of 2.6.19-rc regressions but has gotten exactly zero developer responses. What exactly were the mistakes of the submitter resulting in noone caring about Bugzilla #7255? cu Adrian -- "Is there not promise of rain?" Ling Tan asked suddenly out of the darkness. There had been need of rain for many days. "Only a promise," Lao Er said. Pearl S. Buck - Dragon Seed - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/