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Subject: Re: [PATH 0/4] [RFC] Support virtual DRM
To:     Maxime Ripard <maxime@cerno.tech>
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From:   Esaki Tomohito <etom@igel.co.jp>
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Date:   Tue, 22 Jun 2021 13:36:48 +0900
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Hi, Maxime
Thank you for reply.

On 2021/06/21 18:24, Maxime Ripard wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 09:10:19AM +0200, Thomas Zimmermann wrote:
>> Am 21.06.21 um 08:27 schrieb Tomohito Esaki:
>>> Virtual DRM splits the overlay planes of a display controller into multiple
>>> virtual devices to allow each plane to be accessed by each process.
>>>
>>> This makes it possible to overlay images output from multiple processes on a
>>> display. For example, one process displays the camera image without compositor
>>> while another process overlays the UI.
>>
>> I briefly looked over your patches. I didn't understand how this is
>> different to the functionality of a compositor? Shouldn't this be solved in
>> userspace?
> 
> I think there could be a bunch of use-cases for something that could
> "steal" a plane without the compositor knowing.
> 
> Something I'd really like to work at some point for example is that the
> downstream RaspberryPi display driver has a visual clue when it's
> running too hot or is in over-current.
> 
> I don't think this is the right solution though. The DT binding makes it
> far too static, and if there's a compositor I'd assume it would want to
> know about it somehow (at least if it's from the userspace) ?
> 

I will reconsider the DT bindings.

We want to separate the resources from the master in units of planes,
so we proposed virtual DRM.
By separating the plane from the master and making it appear as
a virtual DRM devicein userland, the plane can be accessed from
userland using the general DRM API.
What do you think about this idea?

Best Regards
Tomohito Esaki