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Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 3/3] mailbox: qcom-apcs: Add SM6125 compatible
To:     Bjorn Andersson <bjorn.andersson@linaro.org>,
        Jassi Brar <jassisinghbrar@gmail.com>
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From:   AngeloGioacchino Del Regno 
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Il 22/06/21 05:52, Bjorn Andersson ha scritto:
> On Mon 21 Jun 22:34 CDT 2021, Jassi Brar wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 9:27 PM Bjorn Andersson
>> <bjorn.andersson@linaro.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon 21 Jun 20:00 CDT 2021, Jassi Brar wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 6:35 PM Bjorn Andersson
>>>> <bjorn.andersson@linaro.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon 21 Jun 18:19 CDT 2021, Rob Herring wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 5:10 PM Jassi Brar <jassisinghbrar@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 21, 2021 at 2:46 PM Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 20, 2021 at 10:03 PM Jassi Brar <jassisinghbrar@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jun 12, 2021 at 4:46 AM Martin Botka
>>>>>>>>> <martin.botka@somainline.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This commit adds compatible for the SM6125 SoC
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Martin Botka <martin.botka@somainline.org>
>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>> Changes in V2:
>>>>>>>>>> None
>>>>>>>>>> Changes in V3:
>>>>>>>>>> Change compatible to apcs-hmss-global
>>>>>>>>>>   drivers/mailbox/qcom-apcs-ipc-mailbox.c | 5 +++++
>>>>>>>>>>   1 file changed, 5 insertions(+)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> diff --git a/drivers/mailbox/qcom-apcs-ipc-mailbox.c b/drivers/mailbox/qcom-apcs-ipc-mailbox.c
>>>>>>>>>> index f25324d03842..f24c5ad8d658 100644
>>>>>>>>>> --- a/drivers/mailbox/qcom-apcs-ipc-mailbox.c
>>>>>>>>>> +++ b/drivers/mailbox/qcom-apcs-ipc-mailbox.c
>>>>>>>>>> @@ -57,6 +57,10 @@ static const struct qcom_apcs_ipc_data sdm660_apcs_data = {
>>>>>>>>>>          .offset = 8, .clk_name = NULL
>>>>>>>>>>   };
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> +static const struct qcom_apcs_ipc_data sm6125_apcs_data = {
>>>>>>>>>> +       .offset = 8, .clk_name = NULL
>>>>>>>>>> +};
>>>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>>>>   static const struct qcom_apcs_ipc_data apps_shared_apcs_data = {
>>>>>>>>>>          .offset = 12, .clk_name = NULL
>>>>>>>>>>   };
>>>>>>>>>> @@ -166,6 +170,7 @@ static const struct of_device_id qcom_apcs_ipc_of_match[] = {
>>>>>>>>>>          { .compatible = "qcom,sc8180x-apss-shared", .data = &apps_shared_apcs_data },
>>>>>>>>>>          { .compatible = "qcom,sdm660-apcs-hmss-global", .data = &sdm660_apcs_data },
>>>>>>>>>>          { .compatible = "qcom,sdm845-apss-shared", .data = &apps_shared_apcs_data },
>>>>>>>>>> +       { .compatible = "qcom,sm6125-apcs-hmss-global", .data = &sm6125_apcs_data },
>>>>>>>>>>          { .compatible = "qcom,sm8150-apss-shared", .data = &apps_shared_apcs_data },
>>>>>>>>>>          { .compatible = "qcom,sdx55-apcs-gcc", .data = &sdx55_apcs_data },
>>>>>>>>>>          {}
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> These all are basically different names for the same controller.
>>>>>>>>> The 'offset' is a configuration parameter and the 'clock', when NULL,
>>>>>>>>> is basically some "always-on" clock.
>>>>>>>>> I am sure we wouldn't be doing it, if the controller was third-party.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If newer implementations are 'the same', then they should have a
>>>>>>>> fallback compatible to the existing one that is the same and no driver
>>>>>>>> change is needed. If the differences are board or instance (within an
>>>>>>>> SoC) specific, then a DT property would be appropriate.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The controllers (13 now) only differ by the 'offset' where the
>>>>>>> registers are mapped. Clock-name is a pure s/w artifact.
>>>>>>> So, maybe we could push all these in DT.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why is 'reg' not used for the offset?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The DT node and its "reg" describes the whole IP block.
>>>>>
>>>>> The particular register that we care of has, as you can see, moved
>>>>> around during the various platforms and some incarnations of this IP
>>>>> block provides controls for CPU-related clocks as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> We can certainly have the multiple compatible points to the same
>>>>> apcs_data, but I'm not able to spot a reasonable "catch-all compatible"
>>>>> given that I don't see any natural groupings.
>>>>>
>>>> Any platform that comes later may reuse the already available compatible.
>>>> For example drop this patch and reuse "qcom,sdm660-apcs-hmss-global" ?
>>>>
>>>
>>> The problem is that this would change the meaning of
>>> "qcom,sdm660-apcs-hmss-global" from meaning "The apcs hmss global block
>>> _in_ sdm660" to "any random apcs block with the mailbox register at
>>> offset 8".
>>>
>> To me, the deeper problem seems to be naming a controller "The apcs
>> hmss global block _in_ sdm660" just because the h/w manual hasn't
>> given a name to it.  But that is okay too, if we name the subsequent
>> controllers as "the same as one in sdm660" and provide the h/w
>> configuration 'offset' via a DT property.
>>
> 
> As I said, I'd need to dig through the hardware documentation for the
> various platforms to see if I can find what the common denominators are.
> We've always seen this as "the apcs hmss global block _in_ <platform>".
> 
>>>>>> In any case, we can't really get rid of the first 13 instances though...
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Right, we have the problem that we have DTBs out there that relies on
>>>>> these compatibles, but as Jassi requests we'd have to start describing
>>>>> the internal register layout in DT - which this binding purposefully
>>>>> avoids.
>>>>>
>>>> Not these strings, but 'offset' and 'clock-name' as optional
>>>> properties that new platforms can use.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Relying on completely generic compatibles to match the driver and then
>>> distinguish each platform using additional properties is exactly what
>>> Qualcomm does downstream.  The community has clarified countless times
>>> that this is not the way to write DT bindings.
>>>
>> Yes, and I don't suggest it otherwise. For h/w quirks and
>> extra/missing features, it does make sense to have different
>> compatibles.
>>
> 
> But what you're suggesting assumes that they are the same and that we're
> done implementing all the software for this block. The platform specific
> compatible allows us to postpone that question.
> 
>> However, for _trivial_ variations let us get that value from DT.
>> 'offset' is anyway a h/w property.
>> That way we won't be distinguishing platforms using dt properties, but
>> only support different platforms seamlessly.
>>
> 
> As I said previously, this goes against the direction provided by the DT
> maintainers. If a property is platform specific this should be expressed
> by the compatible.
> 
>> On second thought, we have grown from 2 to 13 aliases in 4 yrs. I only
>> have to ignore 3 times/annum to lead a peaceful life ;)
>>
> 
> True, but I'll try to find some time to see if we have some reuse of the
> IP block to allow us to use some generic compatible.
> 
> We'd still need a patch in the DT binding for every single platform, but
> we should be able to avoid the compatible additions in the driver.
> 

Hello Jassi, Bjorn

I've read the entire thread and I can't say that Jassi is entirely wrong
but I also agree with Bjorn on this matter.

This driver is here to "simply" manage the register offset in the APCS
IP, which is a pretty straightforward operation.
If you check in this driver, you will see that there's not much
duplication between the various qcom_apcs_ipc_data that we have for
all the different SoCs.

Checking further, we can effectively reduce the amount of compatibles
in this driver by simply removing some "duplicated" instances and in
particular:
ipq6018, ipq8074, msm8916, msm8994, msm8998, sdm660

and eventually replacing them with either of:
- 8bits_apcs_data    qcom,apcs-apps-global-8bit
                      qcom,apcs-kpss-global-8bit
- more_appropriate_name_apcs_data qcom,(...blah)

This would mean that we would have to use a generic "qcom,apcs-clk" as
the clk_name, but no other modifications would be done, apart checking
the return value to choose whether to print or not the dev_err when the
clock name is specified but not present in dt, since the driver is
already actually covering this case.

That would make us able to reduce the compatibles from 6 to 2, relative
to the aforementioned SoC specific bindings.
I'm positive that, through time, when new SoCs arrive, we would avoid
getting this compatible list to be megabytes long...

Right now it's not an issue, but since Qualcomm SoCs are now being very
actively upstreamed, I can see this coming in the future, somehow.


Of course this means that we're getting some fair amount of patch-noise
in the mailing lists, since all qcom dtsi files will have to be changed,
but that shouldn't really be a problem, I guess.

I'm sure that I'm not the only one with such a "wow-idea" in mind :)

Yours,
- Angelo

> Regards,
> Bjorn
>