Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S965894AbWKJVbV (ORCPT ); Fri, 10 Nov 2006 16:31:21 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S966111AbWKJVbV (ORCPT ); Fri, 10 Nov 2006 16:31:21 -0500 Received: from smtp.osdl.org ([65.172.181.4]:9452 "EHLO smtp.osdl.org") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S965894AbWKJVbU (ORCPT ); Fri, 10 Nov 2006 16:31:20 -0500 Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 13:31:01 -0800 From: Stephen Hemminger To: Al Boldi Cc: Arjan van de Ven , Randy Dunlap , Jesper Juhl , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: A proposal; making 2.6.20 a bugfix only version. Message-ID: <20061110133101.4e6cddd3@freekitty> In-Reply-To: <200611110022.52304.a1426z@gawab.com> References: <200611090757.48744.a1426z@gawab.com> <200611102233.30542.a1426z@gawab.com> <1163188188.3138.736.camel@laptopd505.fenrus.org> <200611110022.52304.a1426z@gawab.com> Organization: OSDL X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 2.5.0-rc3 (GTK+ 2.10.6; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1294 Lines: 35 On Sat, 11 Nov 2006 00:22:52 +0300 Al Boldi wrote: > Arjan van de Ven wrote: > > > The problem is not just simple bugs that surface, it's deeper than that. > > > Deep structural problems is what plagues 2.6. > > > > > > Only a focused model may deal with such problems. > > > > can you at least provide a list of such structural problems? > > In fact, why don't you collect them and mail them out (bi)weekly... that > > may already do wonders. > > Look at what Adrian is doing with the regressions; although the response > > isn't 100% people DO pay attention to it.... so maybe if you post a > > "structural problems list" people will actually start working on > > things.. (and of course you can help too ;) > > Ok, things like OOM, scheduling, and block-io. If you want stability don't change these. But if you think you have better heuristics propose them for discussion. > > net looks ok, although I would suggest a redesign for 3.0. Facts, no vague pronouncements please. -- Stephen Hemminger - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/