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Biederman) To: Linus Torvalds Cc: Al Viro , Michael Schmitz , linux-arch , Jens Axboe , Oleg Nesterov , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Richard Henderson , Ivan Kokshaysky , Matt Turner , alpha , Geert Uytterhoeven , linux-m68k , Arnd Bergmann , Ley Foon Tan , Tejun Heo , Kees Cook References: <87sg1lwhvm.fsf@disp2133> <6e47eff8-d0a4-8390-1222-e975bfbf3a65@gmail.com> <924ec53c-2fd9-2e1c-bbb1-3fda49809be4@gmail.com> <87eed4v2dc.fsf@disp2133> <5929e116-fa61-b211-342a-c706dcb834ca@gmail.com> <87fsxjorgs.fsf@disp2133> <87a6njf0ia.fsf@disp2133> <87tulpbp19.fsf@disp2133> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2021 09:33:50 -0500 In-Reply-To: (Linus Torvalds's message of "Tue, 22 Jun 2021 17:41:51 -0700") Message-ID: <87zgvgabw1.fsf@disp2133> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/26.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-XM-SPF: eid=1lw3xp-001cBY-Vq;;;mid=<87zgvgabw1.fsf@disp2133>;;;hst=in02.mta.xmission.com;;;ip=68.227.160.95;;;frm=ebiederm@xmission.com;;;spf=neutral X-XM-AID: U2FsdGVkX19bOZKovoM2dTCNa4FoP/ARdkEwpSg1W4M= X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: 68.227.160.95 X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: ebiederm@xmission.com X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on sa08.xmission.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.5 required=8.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_50, DCC_CHECK_NEGATIVE,T_TM2_M_HEADER_IN_MSG,XMSubLong autolearn=disabled version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Report: * -1.0 ALL_TRUSTED Passed through trusted hosts only via SMTP * 0.8 BAYES_50 BODY: Bayes spam probability is 40 to 60% * [score: 0.5000] * 0.7 XMSubLong Long Subject * 0.0 T_TM2_M_HEADER_IN_MSG BODY: No description available. * -0.0 DCC_CHECK_NEGATIVE Not listed in DCC * [sa08 1397; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1] X-Spam-DCC: XMission; sa08 1397; Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1 X-Spam-Combo: ;Linus Torvalds X-Spam-Relay-Country: X-Spam-Timing: total 533 ms - load_scoreonly_sql: 0.06 (0.0%), signal_user_changed: 12 (2.3%), b_tie_ro: 10 (1.9%), parse: 1.01 (0.2%), extract_message_metadata: 16 (3.0%), get_uri_detail_list: 1.41 (0.3%), tests_pri_-1000: 23 (4.4%), tests_pri_-950: 1.38 (0.3%), tests_pri_-900: 1.22 (0.2%), tests_pri_-90: 75 (14.1%), check_bayes: 73 (13.6%), b_tokenize: 6 (1.2%), b_tok_get_all: 14 (2.6%), b_comp_prob: 3.0 (0.6%), b_tok_touch_all: 44 (8.2%), b_finish: 1.42 (0.3%), tests_pri_0: 390 (73.2%), check_dkim_signature: 0.51 (0.1%), check_dkim_adsp: 3.3 (0.6%), poll_dns_idle: 1.45 (0.3%), tests_pri_10: 2.1 (0.4%), tests_pri_500: 7 (1.4%), rewrite_mail: 0.00 (0.0%) Subject: Re: Kernel stack read with PTRACE_EVENT_EXIT and io_uring threads X-SA-Exim-Version: 4.2.1 (built Sat, 08 Feb 2020 21:53:50 +0000) X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes (on in02.mta.xmission.com) Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Linus Torvalds writes: > On Tue, Jun 22, 2021 at 1:53 PM Eric W. Biederman wrote: >> >> Playing with it some more I think I have everything working working >> except for PTRACE_EVENT_SECCOMP (which can stay ptrace_event) and >> group_exit(2). >> >> Basically in exit sending yourself a signal and then calling do_exit >> from the signal handler is not unreasonable, as exit is an ordinary >> system call. > > Ok, this is a bit odd, but I do like the concept of just making > ptrace_event just post a signal, and have all ptrace things always be > handled at signal time (or the special system call entry/exit, which > is fine too). > >> For purposes of discussion this is my current draft implementation. > > I didn't check what is so different about exit_group() that you left > that as an exercise for the reader, but if that ends up then removing > the whole "wait synchromously for ptrace" cases for good I don't > _hate_ this. It's a bit odd, but it would be really nice to limit > where ptrace picks up data. I am still figuring out exit_group. I am hoping for sometime today. My intuition tells me I can do it, and I have a sense of what threads I need to pull to get there. I just don't know what the code is going to look like yet. Basically solving exit_group means moving ptrace_event out of do_exit. > We do end up doing that stuff in "get_signal()", and that means that > we have the interaction with io_uring calling it directly, but it's at > least not a new thing. The ugliest bit is having to repeat the wait_for_vfork_done both in fork and in get_signal. Eric