Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1030984AbWKOUtt (ORCPT ); Wed, 15 Nov 2006 15:49:49 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1030985AbWKOUtt (ORCPT ); Wed, 15 Nov 2006 15:49:49 -0500 Received: from gprs189-60.eurotel.cz ([160.218.189.60]:51437 "EHLO amd.ucw.cz") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1030984AbWKOUts (ORCPT ); Wed, 15 Nov 2006 15:49:48 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Nov 2006 21:49:33 +0100 From: Pavel Machek To: Alan Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [patch] floppy: suspend/resume fix Message-ID: <20061115204933.GD3875@elf.ucw.cz> References: <200611122047.kACKl8KP004895@harpo.it.uu.se> <20061112212941.GA31624@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> <20061112220318.GA3387@elte.hu> <20061112235410.GB31624@flint.arm.linux.org.uk> <20061114110958.GB2242@elf.ucw.cz> <1163522062.14674.3.camel@mindpipe> <20061115202418.GC3875@elf.ucw.cz> <20061115204915.1d0717db@localhost.localdomain> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20061115204915.1d0717db@localhost.localdomain> X-Warning: Reading this can be dangerous to your mental health. User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11+cvs20060126 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1346 Lines: 34 Hi! > > > > Suspending with mounted floppy is a user error. > > > > > > Huh? How so? > > > > Floppy is removable, and you are expected to umount removable devices > > before suspend. > > That seems pretty crude. There are lots of cases where an apparently > removable device is/should be preserved properly and left mounted (eg > builtin CF). > > We really want to be smarter than that - which means the drivers ought to > be doing stuff in their suspend/resume paths to figure out if the media > changed when really possible (eg IDE removable) > > Floppy is probably not too fixable, but calling it a "user error" is > insulting - user expectation is reasonable that suspend/resume should > just work. The implementation is just rather trickier/nonsensical in this > case. Yep, it would be nice to do something about that; but I'm not sure how this "was media changed" should be implemented, and if it should be done in kernel or in userland. Pavel -- (english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek (cesky, pictures) http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~pavel/picture/horses/blog.html - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/