Received: by 2002:a05:6a10:f3d0:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id a16csp1665937pxv; Sat, 10 Jul 2021 11:07:26 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzq9YWHm1VtNZR9rTYAkQU4T4afsNai63jejzyk5EFlS4qsT5PNmRynOKBXVJrkQF7lVq5a X-Received: by 2002:a05:6402:16:: with SMTP id d22mr55234580edu.101.1625940446712; Sat, 10 Jul 2021 11:07:26 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1625940446; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=Bo9OqKc1d9tkcnX6bVOlMGBMzUt61Oghi6PfMwEo4Ro8+xAAK947PUT/HhJJt2dr9A wM9axLZ5PQaIRd1NdUraiKjKNPBb5Ax6fimIsA653DtRyK0ztEf2xWZI7BLfDrfXnTjX r4Y/+yJBkdv0JKS2nP9pojuDU5qSmMxWj0GZbmqj95pB1UVcJGNar9pHpxfoN55qI6mW vdP/5snbcw/VMgFPbmO1E3ZWZLeAapzvDClRZOXYjazjBirQNHXxaMdB59BOJN/R0BBR yDnmgFPo1BuBcaNivMiKePkn/U0Eg8HtI8VuOe53bm7NzieIQfRsIQg0zCCsV0qQq9Ci Nuog== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:content-transfer-encoding:content-language :mime-version:date:message-id:subject:in-reply-to:organization:from :cc:to; bh=7FNxqfKybWDvMtnXrdZTDcU1ManQF67zAy+bqZiGeOI=; b=aR6GS82LESo0PGZXl+GvUnzl3eB6xmj9EWdPpW9mr/ORLCPhOBhwC/ikSPZALTvXht MrKbd4a/pO3p8tJWCl5dIyOwhTcpYFlYG84q8q+hToWowYjyIFf6E21L9StdliCttXX6 U6qHKJ0zffhPnUkXWe2KYKx/59Z2evJuPzPszNNzaH8vKK2kUWyYL6k5qOUGuhXSmoiv AKhj7WxdqCDmLlhMJzjuMRdCJzRJ8R2z6JVlrQpFYiIbnnxLmQ6HA8wdd9NUcvzs3YUF 2tcbLFzAI3n2t+BSp6HuKQ68JCul1rQszFffLLlS4M6jBJ4xCKy7NPNiQ/Euk3GVLmru g6SQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id r9si2815757edq.454.2021.07.10.11.07.02; Sat, 10 Jul 2021 11:07:26 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S229716AbhGJSId (ORCPT + 99 others); Sat, 10 Jul 2021 14:08:33 -0400 Received: from mx1.riseup.net ([198.252.153.129]:50774 "EHLO mx1.riseup.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229652AbhGJSId (ORCPT ); Sat, 10 Jul 2021 14:08:33 -0400 Received: from fews1.riseup.net (fews1-pn.riseup.net [10.0.1.83]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "*.riseup.net", Issuer "Sectigo RSA Domain Validation Secure Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4GMdHb3vwnzDrhZ; Sat, 10 Jul 2021 11:05:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Riseup-User-ID: 027C2E7FA9882A576F4230443E21B48C75A0196E4E75127C55D378DB13D2B2AC Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fews1.riseup.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4GMdHZ5B8hz5vYk; Sat, 10 Jul 2021 11:05:46 -0700 (PDT) To: aarcange@redhat.com Cc: YiFei Zhu , Linux Containers , YiFei Zhu , bpf , kernel list From: Jim Newsome Organization: The Tor Project, Inc In-Reply-To: <20201104215702.GG24993@redhat.com> Subject: Re: RFC: default to spec_store_bypass_disable=prctl spectre_v2_user=prctl Message-ID: <55e3ba77-a305-8abb-1506-5a8aabe24bf3@torproject.org> Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2021 13:05:46 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Is anything happening with this proposal? Is there anything I could do to help it along? My personal motivation is that I'm involved in developing and using the [Shadow] simulator, which we use to run hours and days long simulations. We're currently looking into running some simulations in gitlab CI Docker runner to take advantage of shared hardware, but Docker currently doesn't expose a way to opt out of these mitigations without turning off seccomp altogether [Docker FR]. I've measured these mitigations to cause simulations to take 50% longer [Overhead], so I'm pretty motivated to find a way to disable them :). [Shadow]: https://shadow.github.io/ [Docker FR]: https://github.com/moby/moby/issues/42619 [Overhead]: https://github.com/shadow/shadow/issues/1489#issuecomment-871445482 P.S. Attempting to respond to a thread without actually being subscribed to the list; sorry if this ends up not threading correctly. The CC header was truncated so also some original recipients have been dropped. Original thread: https://lkml.org/lkml/2020/11/4/1135