Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S933605AbWKQN1G (ORCPT ); Fri, 17 Nov 2006 08:27:06 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S933606AbWKQN1G (ORCPT ); Fri, 17 Nov 2006 08:27:06 -0500 Received: from ecfrec.frec.bull.fr ([129.183.4.8]:34528 "EHLO ecfrec.frec.bull.fr") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S933605AbWKQN1D (ORCPT ); Fri, 17 Nov 2006 08:27:03 -0500 To: balbir@in.ibm.com Subject: Re: [ckrm-tech] [RFC][PATCH 5/8] RSS controller task migration support Cc: ckrm-tech@lists.sourceforge.net, dev@openvz.org, haveblue@us.ibm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, rohitseth@google.com Message-Id: <20061117132533.A5FCF1B6A2@openx4.frec.bull.fr> Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 14:25:33 +0100 (CET) From: Patrick.Le-Dot@bull.net (Patrick.Le-Dot) X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on ECN002/FR/BULL(Release 5.0.12 |February 13, 2003) at 17/11/2006 14:32:36, Serialize by Router on ECN002/FR/BULL(Release 5.0.12 |February 13, 2003) at 17/11/2006 14:32:36, Serialize complete at 17/11/2006 14:32:36 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1482 Lines: 38 > ... > For implementing guarantees, we can use limits. Please see > http://wiki.openvz.org/Containers/Guarantees_for_resources. Nack. This seems to be correct for resources like cpu, disk or network bandwidth but not for the memory just because nobody in this wiki speaks about the kswapd and page reclaim (but it's true that a such demon does not exist for cpu, disk or... then the problem is more simple). For a customer the main reason to use guarantee is to be sure that some pages of a job remain in memory when the system is low on free memory. This should be true even for a job in group/container A with a smooth activity compared to a group/container B with a set of jobs using memory more agressively... What happens if we use limits to implement guarantees ? >> ... >> The idea of getting a guarantee is simple: >> if any group gi requires a Gi units of resource from R units available >> then limiting all the rest groups with R - Gi units provides a desired >> guarantee If the limit is a "hard limit" then we have implemented reservation and this is too strict. If the limit is a "soft limit" then group/container B is autorized to use more than the limit and nothing is guaranteed for group/container A... Patrick - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/