Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S933627AbWKQOmO (ORCPT ); Fri, 17 Nov 2006 09:42:14 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S933629AbWKQOmO (ORCPT ); Fri, 17 Nov 2006 09:42:14 -0500 Received: from ecfrec.frec.bull.fr ([129.183.4.8]:9365 "EHLO ecfrec.frec.bull.fr") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S933627AbWKQOmN (ORCPT ); Fri, 17 Nov 2006 09:42:13 -0500 To: alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk Subject: Re: [ckrm-tech] [RFC][PATCH 5/8] RSS controller task migration support Cc: balbir@in.ibm.com, ckrm-tech@lists.sourceforge.net, dev@openvz.org, haveblue@us.ibm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org, rohitseth@google.com Message-Id: <20061117144206.3013D1B6A2@openx4.frec.bull.fr> Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2006 15:42:06 +0100 (CET) From: Patrick.Le-Dot@bull.net (Patrick.Le-Dot) X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on ECN002/FR/BULL(Release 5.0.12 |February 13, 2003) at 17/11/2006 15:49:07, Serialize by Router on ECN002/FR/BULL(Release 5.0.12 |February 13, 2003) at 17/11/2006 15:49:08, Serialize complete at 17/11/2006 15:49:08 Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1445 Lines: 43 On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 14:05:13 +0000 > ... > There are two reasons for wanting memory guarantees > > #1 To be sure a user can't toast the entire box but just their own > compartment (eg web hosting) Well, this seems not a situation to add a guarantee to this user but a limit... > ... > #2 To ensure all apps continue to make progress or to ensure that a job is ready to work without to have to pay the cost of a lot of pagination in... >> If the limit is a "hard limit" then we have implemented reservation and >> this is too strict. > > Thats fundamentally a judgement based on your particular workload and > constraints. Nop. You can read this on the wiki page... I'm just saying that the implementation of guarantee with limits seems to be not enough for #2. > If I am web hosting then I don't generally care if my end > users compartment blows up under excess load, I care that the other 200 > customers using the box don't suffer and all phone me to complain. I agree : limit is necessary and should be a "hard limit" (even if the controler needs an internal threeshold like a "soft limit" to decide to wakeup the kswapd). But this is not the topic (not yet:-) Patrick - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/