Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 16:03:05 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 16:02:56 -0500 Received: from neon-gw-l3.transmeta.com ([63.209.4.196]:48649 "EHLO neon-gw.transmeta.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id ; Tue, 13 Nov 2001 16:02:49 -0500 Message-ID: <3BF18A58.9080804@zytor.com> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2001 13:02:16 -0800 From: "H. Peter Anvin" Organization: Zytor Communications User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20010913 X-Accept-Language: en, sv MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Maciej W. Rozycki" CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: fdutils. In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Maciej W. Rozycki wrote: > >>> Hmm, Sun used to have a software-controlled standard floppy drives years >>>ago... >>> >>I'm not talking about Suns. > > I'm just pointing out there used to be no problem with making a > software-controlled eject for a legacy floppy device even long ago if one > wanted to. > Macs have had them since, what, 1984? It's never been a question of it being a problem, but it hasn't caught on on the PC. > >>> Based on local obervations hardly anyone uses floppies anymore... They >>>are mostly used for system rescue purposes, where the kind of a device >>>doesn't really matter. >>> >>... except that you no longer can fit a reasonable system rescue/install >>setup on a floppy, so it *defintitely* matters. Also, the floppy device >>is like a rash all over the hardware; it maintains a highly undesirable >>legacy. >> > > You only confirm what I wrote -- hardly anyone uses floppies, so there is > no need to keep mechanical compatibility in devices -- a complete dump of > 1.44" FD support would be almost harmless. Hence whether a Zip or a > LS-120 -- it doesn't really matter. You need new media anyway. > Unfortunately other people don't seem to see it that way, and so it doesn't happen. People ship USB floppies with new laptops, so there is clearly a demand for them. I believe that if LS-120 had been where the Zip drive was for a brief while, it would have stuck, just because of the compatibility issue. -hpa - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/