Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S933705AbWKSW7o (ORCPT ); Sun, 19 Nov 2006 17:59:44 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S933710AbWKSW7o (ORCPT ); Sun, 19 Nov 2006 17:59:44 -0500 Received: from nf-out-0910.google.com ([64.233.182.189]:62044 "EHLO nf-out-0910.google.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S933705AbWKSW7o (ORCPT ); Sun, 19 Nov 2006 17:59:44 -0500 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:subject:from:to:cc:in-reply-to:references:content-type:date:message-id:mime-version:x-mailer:content-transfer-encoding; b=shCRBV/7oXG7SQbOfVWkbm9LEHbvGNiL9lRotuJ5JvG/tUXT5Q9/pfkcOARFNtNs8XbjY+4u+SQG6MlrLr/ftzCdJ0wqVMNzXR/OKdm/yEh2Tt9QKsl6Z09bU6R+vySenL5YTnTdcS3E6qGmBlvx/RTy/IkIu2/0YWe3HMO9bh4= Subject: Re: [patch] PM: suspend/resume debugging should depend on SOFTWARE_SUSPEND From: Romano Giannetti To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" Cc: Linus Torvalds , Chuck Ebbert <76306.1226@compuserve.com>, linux-kernel , Andrew Morton In-Reply-To: <200611191955.23782.rjw@sisk.pl> References: <200611190320_MC3-1-D21B-111C@compuserve.com> <200611191844.14354.rjw@sisk.pl> <200611191955.23782.rjw@sisk.pl> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 23:59:39 +0100 Message-Id: <1163977180.13408.36.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.8.1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1529 Lines: 36 On Sun, 2006-11-19 at 19:55 +0100, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > On Sunday, 19 November 2006 19:21, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > > On Sun, 19 Nov 2006, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > > > > > In fact that's up to 30 seconds on a modern box, usually less than that. > > > > Right. If the machine boots quickly, it's fast. Of course, if the machine > > boots quickly, you might as well often just shut down and reboot. > > Yes, if the only thing you want to run is the kernel. The applications aren't > going to start so quickly, you know. ;-) Can I say a word in defence of STD? It's true that now that I have STR working(*) for the first time on my old vaio I use it much less, but it has been my salvation in the last four years, and for this I have to thanks Nigel, Pavel, Rafael and all the people involved. And still now it is very useful. I can STD a session with tens of application opened, and come back after changing batteries in less than a minute _doing other things_, and not opening applications and files all over the place. So yes, I think it's useful. And when suspend-to-both will work radiply and safely, that will be great (and a point over The Other SO...) Romano (*) if only for this, all the troubles I had upgrading to Ubuntu Edgy has been worthwhile. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/