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[209.85.167.49]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o18sm1034115ljc.25.2021.07.16.11.07.45 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 16 Jul 2021 11:07:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lf1-f49.google.com with SMTP id i5so17426059lfe.2 for ; Fri, 16 Jul 2021 11:07:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a05:6512:3f82:: with SMTP id x2mr7981304lfa.421.1626458865567; Fri, 16 Jul 2021 11:07:45 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4e8c0640-d781-877c-e6c5-ed5cc09443f6@gmail.com> <20210716114635.14797-1-papadakospan@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20210716114635.14797-1-papadakospan@gmail.com> From: Linus Torvalds Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2021 11:07:29 -0700 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] vboxsf fixes for 5.14-1 To: "Leonidas P. Papadakos" , Konstantin Komarov Cc: zajec5@gmail.com, "Darrick J. Wong" , Greg Kroah-Hartman , Hans de Goede , linux-fsdevel , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Al Viro , Matthew Wilcox Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 4:49 AM Leonidas P. Papadakos wrote: > > This driver is already in a much better feature state than the old ntfs driver from 2001. If the new ntfs code has acks from people - and it sounds like it did get them - and Paragon is expected to be the maintainer of it, then I think Paragon should just make a git pull request for it. That's assuming that it continues to be all in just fs/ntfs3/ (plus fs/Kconfig, fs/Makefile and MAINTAINERS entries and whatever documentation) and there are no other system-wide changes. Which I don't think it had. We simply don't have anybody to funnel new filesystems - the fsdevel mailing list is good for comments and get feedback, but at some point somebody just needs to actually submit it, and that's not what fsdevel ends up doing. The argument that "it's already in a much better state than the old ntfs driver" may not be a very strong technical argument (not because of any Paragon problems - just because the old ntfs driver is not great), but it _is_ a fairly strong argument for merging the new one from Paragon. And I don't think there has been any huge _complaints_ about the code, and I don't think there's been any sign that being outside the kernel helps. Linus