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Wysocki" Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" , LKML , Linux PM , dsmythies Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 11:34 PM Doug Smythies wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 10:47 AM Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > > > On Wednesday, July 28, 2021 3:52:51 PM CEST Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > > On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 10:06 PM Doug Smythies wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Rafael, > > > > > > > > Further to my reply of 2021.07.04 on this, I have > > > > continued to work with and test this patch set. > > > > > > > > On 2021.06.02 11:14 Rafael J. Wysocki wrote: > > > > > > > > >This series of patches addresses some theoretical shortcoming in the > > > > > TEO (Timer Events Oriented) cpuidle governor by reworking its idle > > > > > state selection logic to some extent. > > > > > > > > > > Patches [1-2/5] are introductory cleanups and the substantial changes are > > > > > made in patches [3-4/5] (please refer to the changelogs of these two > > > > > patches for details). The last patch only deals with documentation. > > > > > > > > > > Even though this work is mostly based on theoretical considerations, it > > > > > shows a measurable reduction of the number of cases in which the shallowest > > > > > idle state is selected while it would be more beneficial to select a deeper > > > > > one or the deepest idle state is selected while it would be more beneficial to > > > > > select a shallower one, which should be a noticeable improvement. > > > > > > > > I am concentrating in the idle state 0 and 1 area. > > > > When I disable idle state 0, the expectation is its > > > > usage will fall to idle state 1. It doesn't. > > > > > > > > Conditions: > > > > CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-10600K CPU @ 4.10GHz > > > > HWP: disabled > > > > CPU frequency scaling driver: intel_pstate, active > > > > CPU frequency scaling governor: performance. > > > > Idle configuration: As a COMETLAKE processor, with 4 idle states. > > > > Sample time for below: 1 minute. > > > > Workflow: Cross core named pipe token passing, 12 threads. > > > > > > > > Kernel 5.14-rc3: idle: teo governor > > > > > > > > All idle states enabled: PASS > > > > Processor: 97 watts > > > > Idle state 0 entries: 811151 > > > > Idle state 1 entries: 140300776 > > > > Idle state 2 entries: 889 > > > > Idle state 3 entries: 8 > > > > > > > > Idle state 0 disabled: FAIL <<<<< > > > > Processor: 96 watts > > > > Idle state 0 entries: 0 > > > > Idle state 1 entries: 65599283 > > > > Idle state 2 entries: 364399 > > > > Idle state 3 entries: 65112651 > > > > > > This looks odd. > > > > > > Thanks for the report, I'll take a look at this. > > > > I have found an issue in the code that may be responsible for the > > observed behavior and should be addressed by the appended patch (not > > tested yet). > > > > Basically, the "disabled" check in the second loop over states in > > teo_select() needs to exclude the first enabled state, because > > there are no more states to check after that. > > > > Plus the time span check needs to be done when the given state > > is about to be selected, because otherwise the function may end up > > returning a state for which the sums are too low. > > > > Thanks! > > > > --- > > drivers/cpuidle/governors/teo.c | 26 ++++++++++++++------------ > > 1 file changed, 14 insertions(+), 12 deletions(-) > > > > Index: linux-pm/drivers/cpuidle/governors/teo.c > > =================================================================== > > --- linux-pm.orig/drivers/cpuidle/governors/teo.c > > +++ linux-pm/drivers/cpuidle/governors/teo.c > > @@ -404,25 +404,27 @@ static int teo_select(struct cpuidle_dri > > intercept_sum += bin->intercepts; > > recent_sum += bin->recent; > > > > - if (dev->states_usage[i].disable) > > + if (dev->states_usage[i].disable && i > idx0) > > continue; > > > > span_ns = teo_middle_of_bin(i, drv); > > - if (!teo_time_ok(span_ns)) { > > - /* > > - * The current state is too shallow, so select > > - * the first enabled deeper state. > > - */ > > - duration_ns = last_enabled_span_ns; > > - idx = last_enabled_idx; > > - break; > > - } > > > > if ((!alt_recent || 2 * recent_sum > idx_recent_sum) && > > (!alt_intercepts || > > 2 * intercept_sum > idx_intercept_sum)) { > > - idx = i; > > - duration_ns = span_ns; > > + if (!teo_time_ok(span_ns) || > > + dev->states_usage[i].disable) { > > + /* > > + * The current state is too shallow or > > + * disabled, so select the first enabled > > + * deeper state. > > + */ > > + duration_ns = last_enabled_span_ns; > > + idx = last_enabled_idx; > > + } else { > > + idx = i; > > + duration_ns = span_ns; > > + } > > break; > > } > > Hi Rafael, > > I tried the patch and when I disabled idle state 0 > got, very similar to before: > > Idle state 0 disabled: FAIL > Processor: 95 watts > Idle state 0 entries: 0 > Idle state 1 entries: 65,475,534 > Idle state 2 entries: 333144 > Idle state 3 entries: 65,247,048 > > However, I accidently left it for about 30 minutes > and noticed: > > Idle state 0 disabled: > Processor: 83 watts > Idle state 0 entries: 0 > Idle state 1 entries: 88,706,831 > Idle state 2 entries: 100 > Idle state 3 entries: 662 > > I went back to unmodified kernel 5.13-rc3 and Sorry, 5.14-rc3. > let it run longer with idle state 0 disabled, and > after 30 minutes it had changed but nowhere > near as much: > > Idle state 0 disabled: > Processor: 87 watts > Idle state 0 entries: 0 > Idle state 1 entries: 70,361,020 > Idle state 2 entries: 71219 > Idle state 3 entries: 27,249,975 Addendum: So far the workflow used for this thread has been event based. If I switch to a timer based workflow, everything works as expected for both kernels, 5.14-rc3 unmodified and modified with the patch from herein. ... Doug