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Miller" , Jakub Kicinski , Jacob Keller , Arnd Bergmann , Kurt Kanzenbach , Shiraz Saleem , Dave Ertman , intel-wired-lan@lists.osuosl.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next v2] ethernet/intel: fix PTP_1588_CLOCK dependencies Message-ID: <20210802164907.GA9832@hoboy.vegasvil.org> References: <20210802145937.1155571-1-arnd@kernel.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20210802145937.1155571-1-arnd@kernel.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Aug 02, 2021 at 04:59:33PM +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote: > This is a recurring problem in many drivers, and we have discussed > it several times befores, without reaching a consensus. I'm providing > a link to the previous email thread for reference, which discusses > some related problems, though I can't find what reasons there were > against the approach with the extra Kconfig dependency. Quoting myself in the thread from 12 Nov 2020: This whole "implies" thing turned out to be a colossal PITA. I regret the fact that it got merged. It wasn't my idea. This whole thing came about because Nicolas Pitre wanted to make PHC core support into a module and also to be able to remove dynamic posix clock support for tinification. It has proved to be a never ending source of confusion. Let's restore the core functionality and remove "implies" for good. Thanks, Richard