Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 13:57:04 +0000
From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Dave Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>
Cc: Alan <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>, Adam Jackson <ajax@nwnk.net>,
       Arjan van de Ven <arjan@infradead.org>,
       Casey Dahlin <cjdahlin@ncsu.edu>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Overriding X on panic
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Hi!

> >> for the Intel hw Keith doesn't seem to think it's all 
> >that much of a
> >> problem though...
> >
> >Including the TV out, odder LCD panels, non BIOS modes 
> >etc ? If so then
> >it might be an interesting test case for intelfb to 
> >grow some kind of
> >console helper interface
...
> I personally think we need to probably just bite the 
> bullet and start
> sticking graphics drivers into the kernel, the new 
> randr-1.2 interface
> for X is probably a good starting point for a generic 
> mode setting
> interface that isn't so X dependent and could replace 
> fbdev with
> something more sane wrt dualhead and multiple outputs... 
> fbdev could
> be implemented on top of that layer then.. also 
> suspend/resume really
> needs this sort of thing....

Yes, pretty please...

> My main worry with integrating graphics drivers into the 
> kernel is
> that when they don't work the user gets no screen, with 
> network/sound
> etc this isn't so bad, but if they can't see a screen 
> debugging gets
> to be a bit more difficult....

You can have my hgc card + monitor if it helps :-). Okay, it is old
ISA, so it probably does not, but with serial or netconsole debugging
should be doable, no?
							Pavel
-- 
Thanks for all the (sleeping) penguins.
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