Received: by 2002:a05:6a10:1d13:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id pp19csp779553pxb; Wed, 18 Aug 2021 14:06:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJx3qXVcEx/F44TlMbRz8EprOi8pAZSeLr2CfGR5q0Lck7RNhg5qfzZVaJ0NsNtBRMiChiYl X-Received: by 2002:a5e:990e:: with SMTP id t14mr8792224ioj.75.1629320782000; Wed, 18 Aug 2021 14:06:22 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1629320781; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=gckfNZNBX4HkRNRPZjlN/qqUAOBs4seZOlPcL+GdS8N3jr01zGx1PzLmwsuvfWGx4a OkTUyHEHGdx2RQp5hl+Sh/nrHkCwxacmiey61BEWWPrbNVz24MDcgjsuXOZFoLu4y3s1 kDxW667OsjtRYmAn2o0MCL96KiMGHf9pAunFCywW2aRoPaedtRgcSmBJZCuSbwSC02rC g/7Kryk5z6Uv5coUVYbXKkponAYuNwqCS8ohsO5QJNMFeWgMWqkzHtcnXxdt/yDuxgpO AAICkN1hQj+iUglEW3cLrNw60Tco/AGr3rdUjWSYraNoXRgrX+HBSz2ooLjk+3wGEnzw 8hLw== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :references:in-reply-to:organization:message-id:date:subject:cc:to :from; bh=+1gpKrHFVsVo7yWLirAPd48+tl7vgwuhtVFT0/xX7OA=; b=UHcfFO/aUgIqtjZM+iH2gl9nIUClK8inu/KzInOn+28mjy/bA98aoPtoO/EB+EcoOZ bTKktguqv7dfEbD8utlRFNwsqWHVYu8ZutunApKhHtQTFLjaQc0L5hnsJurwAsso2vxz ELkHjt8AdoNPZhq7ny5WqMhzIaPHbN5Z9wnGG8Pp4mK6vOmRid+EWybPxFfMlbZXy+um z0fU6Rh7jW/Xy/RXpsk9/usXyIQ3guY5MKuU+vOSWz5DX22NSeEwRs14uNZWV6VC/JCe 9jmYc0Oh0d3vO074nknhhMIG5dDfwDLosQaZlIxieDmD8SD9/EFix3TVTTm9AEmHozMp jiyw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=intel.com Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id z16si799422jat.29.2021.08.18.14.06.10; Wed, 18 Aug 2021 14:06:21 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=fail (p=NONE sp=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=intel.com Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S233958AbhHRVFZ convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT + 99 others); Wed, 18 Aug 2021 17:05:25 -0400 Received: from mga14.intel.com ([192.55.52.115]:22657 "EHLO mga14.intel.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S233378AbhHRVFY (ORCPT ); Wed, 18 Aug 2021 17:05:24 -0400 X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="6200,9189,10080"; a="216155443" X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.84,332,1620716400"; d="scan'208";a="216155443" Received: from fmsmga007.fm.intel.com ([10.253.24.52]) by fmsmga103.fm.intel.com with ESMTP/TLS/ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384; 18 Aug 2021 14:04:49 -0700 X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.84,332,1620716400"; d="scan'208";a="449905446" Received: from irsmsx605.ger.corp.intel.com ([163.33.146.138]) by fmsmga007.fm.intel.com with ESMTP; 18 Aug 2021 14:04:47 -0700 Received: from tjmaciei-mobl5.localnet (10.209.60.224) by IRSMSX605.ger.corp.intel.com (163.33.146.138) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256) id 15.1.2242.10; Wed, 18 Aug 2021 22:04:44 +0100 From: Thiago Macieira To: Borislav Petkov , "Bae, Chang Seok" CC: "Lutomirski, Andy" , "tglx@linutronix.de" , "mingo@kernel.org" , "x86@kernel.org" , "Brown, Len" , "Hansen, Dave" , "Liu, Jing2" , "Shankar, Ravi V" , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 12/26] x86/fpu/xstate: Use feature disable (XFD) to protect dynamic user state Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2021 14:04:41 -0700 Message-ID: <3399412.qF98CnctbS@tjmaciei-mobl5> Organization: Intel Corporation In-Reply-To: References: <20210730145957.7927-1-chang.seok.bae@intel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Originating-IP: [10.209.60.224] X-ClientProxiedBy: orsmsx605.amr.corp.intel.com (10.22.229.18) To IRSMSX605.ger.corp.intel.com (163.33.146.138) Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wednesday, 18 August 2021 13:43:50 PDT Bae, Chang Seok wrote: > > Then our API needs improving. An app should be able to ask the kernel > > "Do you support AMX?" get a proper answer and act accordingly. > > Maybe I’m missing something, but I wonder what’s the difference from > reading XCR0. That assumes the kernel will always enable the bits in XCR0, like it is doing today and with your patch, because modifying it is a VM exit. But it's not the only possible solution. A future kernel could decide to leave some bits off and only enable upon request. That's how macOS/Darwin does its AVX512 support. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago.macieira (AT) intel.com Software Architect - Intel DPG Cloud Engineering