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[23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id s22si9877704edr.473.2021.08.21.07.09.07; Sat, 21 Aug 2021 07:10:03 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b="fkkeI/XA"; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=QUARANTINE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S231485AbhHUN7s (ORCPT + 99 others); Sat, 21 Aug 2021 09:59:48 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:38538 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S230167AbhHUN7q (ORCPT ); Sat, 21 Aug 2021 09:59:46 -0400 Received: from mail-yb1-xb35.google.com (mail-yb1-xb35.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::b35]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4C3D1C061575; Sat, 21 Aug 2021 06:59:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-yb1-xb35.google.com with SMTP id p4so24465907yba.3; Sat, 21 Aug 2021 06:59:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=0XteRi3XzBqghOEZ5aq+q2tRiDkRnrgjY6e5r4R/fzA=; b=fkkeI/XAbuTYQSDi6nIE5kLL/ITXbHgzzrTT/plbGGjiLqzNWAC0njyRghhqVFCpVR Yj01o40GURVWHWZeNAuIWj0mr6Dn5cI5A5+dnkIfiwUyWXru9ZpmcNhGjKfXN2Zcyb8c jlx4oAB/zoS0HbRE5t9g3zmxmEwrNfRabPVjOI1kup1vLm/TO273lVEWRQLZ3V1zxPs/ LFW3JzHekSaEHLudoY/fJwcIbk6xvG1lAdUSJV/2lWm63sVRMu1693tFLEpsxbcrB0Y6 qVhX9/+KPEIuPaH16BZ6rT8xljnLuM3jP5Ui8++hN4ejR+Fq3Ti/s61U3Wj4/wOZosyC ZYJw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=0XteRi3XzBqghOEZ5aq+q2tRiDkRnrgjY6e5r4R/fzA=; b=kFqOcIyQkB5X3cuxmNvLrciatEW8CEeJGt0D540u/2gwLI5GCEIPF+RXgsy7CJ+MVx /ytZLzLDxeqXCO69CHm7klI18vegKZNboaukgccFacVRBNVq5S4PQJyObQGyIvj4yvLE nrMMXViV1sTKCvsAYLhuw6JKE8FneaNPsqAyeiu+Vhc2T4qDGV856eVPTpf+nyqfdS3P BLozUq9x1noSmViNOidMQxWCxMf603GUvPpgHeN4RzVhXpQykKD1t9jU/ExvLl4oYcDw Vw5noz475oaPUfdTiU5qIi+25BrzRJloBnkJR5YRLe/M1Z7crkZISj7yQRF6owYHzh+/ fcTA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531JrTNLzryppbJjpldnA1So3vJuznZ48+gyTLeYbRS/WDtAoy8k tu9A8eNh5bu3cJ+xALWSsggZ7SG9p57dbkVD+vrX22UQZDMgnlQD X-Received: by 2002:a25:c9c6:: with SMTP id z189mr28211215ybf.497.1629554344734; Sat, 21 Aug 2021 06:59:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <4e3e0d40-df4a-94f8-7c2d-85010b0873c4@web.de> <20210819133128.45ef4353@coco.lan> In-Reply-To: <20210819133128.45ef4353@coco.lan> From: Manu Abraham Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2021 19:28:54 +0530 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [Regression 5.14] media: dvb userspace api To: Mauro Carvalho Chehab Cc: Soeren Moch , Linus Torvalds , Linux Media Mailing List , "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Dearest Mauro, I am not trying to annoy you or anyone else with my response here, but: On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 5:01 PM Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote: > > Em Wed, 11 Aug 2021 14:15:02 +0200 > Soeren Moch escreveu: > > > Commit 819fbd3d8ef36c09576c2a0ffea503f5c46e9177 ("media: dvb header > > files: move some headers to staging") moved audio, video, and osd parts > > of the media DVB API to staging and out of kernel headers. But this is > > part of the media userspace API, removing this causes regressions. > > There's no regression: a legacy driver (av7110) for a device that stopped > being manufactured 15 years ago and that doesn't work anymore with current > Digital TV transmissions was removed, together with the API that it was > implemented inside such driver's code. Please do not exaggerate.. (I can write more precise technical details in here, but that will not solve the real issue at hand.) You have only your own viewpoint, refuse to listen to anyone else. Wonder why all the DVB developers left development ? It's all about you, yourself and you. Linus doesn't care about anything else, you have been very lucky! You need serious introspection about yourself. Take a deep breath, think for yourself, why I stopped submitting code. Forget myself, think about the list of developers who were around, but not now. People need to have fun with what they are doing, but you make it, everything about yourself. It's all about maintaining connections, rather than destroying them. At least during these uncertain times, please stop the narrow thinking. If you find my view offending, just ignore it, no need to give another thousand mile long essay; I am on my way .. Friendly Regards, MA