Received: by 2002:a05:6a10:1d13:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id pp19csp3173459pxb; Tue, 24 Aug 2021 17:31:28 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJx+3LVP/je53AbaF1BX40HdVmgxN4jmGil1mzInChjjmiRZd2mjyPbnzeXUGVUgOSU60jvu X-Received: by 2002:a02:708f:: with SMTP id f137mr3940154jac.68.1629851488194; Tue, 24 Aug 2021 17:31:28 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1629851488; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=f5IXzUxJPi2wfnoSaAKlqcPcm78Vo5jE7YDNFHtHlsC5sei8+oHc9nl1qdMk7mudrL YpGJ3WmK487hBAYmNFquDHqHKKIfRQ+P8t/48FGW+FOhPRrsbe76526JFegg2ToC0+Lg s+Jc8asbZn0UeeuTUa17EvsGQolzk/rYyo7UEljqP15Y6RKXuvKHixxcSf6KE7WHHMgC ReJ7Wil0E8e5SNBlmhfPUNSn7VKmlRJ6Ihqw1Etqkbttt9M6EXIKWpp85WJ6Mg4RsH6Q D0jxDtyF791AQRX+zEDoCS9WbxJTo+wDUXX2ZWo6hgLrUUwBTxrQwPNGKIff2AlmVm6i QVCw== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:user-agent:in-reply-to:content-disposition :mime-version:references:mail-followup-to:message-id:subject:cc:to :from:date; bh=ym9YMLAYOjUPVav7feFOv/wrfsYc+mCNEbxUssdAVU4=; b=az+qEM1Xn/kDVT3N2ILB2KX+q8p/gIV4XPr6J39cfXdCkGPiGGe2f5R2gb1VSQ6WIk dzh3UqdyMu+rWwc/eJDPAg/eUWKrSUy0mcZQeVkenkiRjYs7OAsQbnhhRZaaTgx3YLmq MLTTI3FpCrstc35LXfXWMjFmg6gz/JQDCkjA5xtdCj2/gyUO4NlqKTC8xgqvViqV9vyR S5o8OjeJNiHeDlaNWFGBnm8GK7PYw/5VVrcGdAnSY5o1q5Enp6N8s/rIIPJRcFLUTgK5 HhYngJK04VOZS385kOTz6pf1gzPH0T8YQ1Jp0Hf5OARx7R50w7juADM89MhJz/avKg5J TJcA== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id a2si19228260ilp.123.2021.08.24.17.31.13; Tue, 24 Aug 2021 17:31:28 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S236214AbhHYA37 (ORCPT + 99 others); Tue, 24 Aug 2021 20:29:59 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:46560 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S231552AbhHYA36 (ORCPT ); Tue, 24 Aug 2021 20:29:58 -0400 Received: from scorn.kernelslacker.org (scorn.kernelslacker.org [IPv6:2600:3c03:e000:2fb::1]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 03E22C061757 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 2021 17:29:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [2601:196:4600:6634:ae9e:17ff:feb7:72ca] (helo=wopr.kernelslacker.org) by scorn.kernelslacker.org with esmtp (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mIgmy-0001eD-O3; Tue, 24 Aug 2021 20:29:08 -0400 Received: by wopr.kernelslacker.org (Postfix, from userid 1026) id 48C3056006F; Tue, 24 Aug 2021 20:29:08 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2021 20:29:08 -0400 From: Dave Jones To: Linus Torvalds Cc: Peter Zijlstra , Linux Kernel , Johannes Weiner Subject: Re: 5.14-rc breaks iotop swap io monitoring. Message-ID: <20210825002908.GA16064@codemonkey.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Dave Jones , Linus Torvalds , Peter Zijlstra , Linux Kernel , Johannes Weiner References: <20210824031648.GA2725@codemonkey.org.uk> <20210824151943.GA386@codemonkey.org.uk> <20210824213342.GA1708@codemonkey.org.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13) X-Spam-Note: SpamAssassin invocation failed Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 04:26:59PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > > What happens if you boot with the 'delayacct' kernel parameter. > > > > > Yeah that boot option does make iotop work again. > > Ok, so it's that delay allocation thing is it. > > I'm inclined to let it be and see if somebody else notices, and how > big of a deal it is. > > The 'delayacct' kernel command line is an acceptable workaround if > this is something only a few people will even notice or care about. > > I wonder how much people care about some statistics and iotop these days. > > I also assume the swap stats still show up in "vmstat" etc, and that > it's just that iotop ended up using fancier interfaces? afaict, vmstat is fine (though none of my machines are using swap, so they're just reporting 0) Dave