Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S937444AbWLFT0v (ORCPT ); Wed, 6 Dec 2006 14:26:51 -0500 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S937435AbWLFT0v (ORCPT ); Wed, 6 Dec 2006 14:26:51 -0500 Received: from palinux.external.hp.com ([192.25.206.14]:34642 "EHLO mail.parisc-linux.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S937423AbWLFT0t (ORCPT ); Wed, 6 Dec 2006 14:26:49 -0500 Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 12:26:47 -0700 From: Matthew Wilcox To: Linus Torvalds Cc: Christoph Lameter , Russell King , David Howells , Andrew Morton , linux-arm-kernel@lists.arm.linux.org.uk, Linux Kernel Mailing List , linux-arch@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] WorkStruct: Implement generic UP cmpxchg() where an arch doesn't support it Message-ID: <20061206192647.GW3013@parisc-linux.org> References: <20061206164314.19870.33519.stgit@warthog.cambridge.redhat.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.13 (2006-08-11) Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Content-Length: 1276 Lines: 30 On Wed, Dec 06, 2006 at 11:05:22AM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote: > On Wed, 6 Dec 2006, Christoph Lameter wrote: > > > > I'd really appreciate a cmpxchg that is generically available for > > all arches. It will allow lockless implementation for various performance > > criticial portions of the kernel. > > I suspect ARM may have been the last one without one, no? It's just been pointed out to me that the parisc one isn't safe. imagine variable X is set to 3 CPU A issues cmpxchg(&X, 3, 5) you'd expect that to change X to 5 but what if CPU B assigns 6 to X between cmpxchg reading X and it setting X? Given parisc's paucity of atomic operations (load-and-zero-32bit and load-and-zero-64bit), cmpxchg() is impossible to implement safely. There has to be something we can hook to exclude another processor modifying the variable. I'm OK with using atomic_cmpxchg(); we have atomic_set locked against it. Of course, using cmpxchg() isn't really lockless. It's just hidden locking. - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/