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Shutemov" , "Kirill A . Shutemov" , Sathyanarayanan Kuppuswamy , Dave Hansen References: <20210824005248.200037-1-seanjc@google.com> <307d385a-a263-276f-28eb-4bc8dd287e32@redhat.com> <20210827023150.jotwvom7mlsawjh4@linux.intel.com> <8f3630ff-bd6d-4d57-8c67-6637ea2c9560@www.fastmail.com> <20210901102437.g5wrgezmrjqn3mvy@linux.intel.com> <20210902081923.lertnjsgnskegkmn@linux.intel.com> From: Andy Lutomirski Message-ID: Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2021 11:41:07 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20210902081923.lertnjsgnskegkmn@linux.intel.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org >> >> In principle, you could actually initialize a TDX guest with all of its >> memory shared and all of it mapped in the host IOMMU. When a guest >> turns some pages private, user code could punch a hole in the memslot, >> allocate private memory at that address, but leave the shared backing >> store in place and still mapped in the host IOMMU. The result would be >> that guest-initiated DMA to the previously shared address would actually >> work but would hit pages that are invisible to the guest. And a whole >> bunch of memory would be waste, but the whole system should stll work. > > Do you mean to let VFIO & IOMMU to treat all guest memory as shared first, > and then just allocate the private pages in another backing store? I guess > that could work, but with the cost of allocating roughly 2x physical pages > of the guest RAM size. After all, the shared pages shall be only a small > part of guest memory. Yes. My point is that I don't think there should be any particular danger in leaving the VFIO code alone as part of TDX enablement. The code ought to *work* even if it will be wildly inefficient. If someone cares to make it work better, they're welcome to do so. --Andy