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[209.85.208.180]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 23sm289203lfp.47.2021.09.04.10.22.41 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 04 Sep 2021 10:22:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-lj1-f180.google.com with SMTP id i28so3839182ljm.7 for ; Sat, 04 Sep 2021 10:22:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a2e:a363:: with SMTP id i3mr3513230ljn.56.1630776161685; Sat, 04 Sep 2021 10:22:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3b461878-a4a0-2f84-e177-9daf8fe285e7@kernel.org> <878s0c4vng.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> <20210904131911.GP1583@gate.crashing.org> <871r644bd2.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> In-Reply-To: <871r644bd2.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> From: Linus Torvalds Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2021 10:22:25 -0700 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: [GIT PULL v2] Kbuild updates for v5.15-rc1 To: Florian Weimer Cc: Segher Boessenkool , Nathan Chancellor , Masahiro Yamada , Nick Desaulniers , Linux Kbuild mailing list , Linux Kernel Mailing List , clang-built-linux , llvm@lists.linux.dev, linux-toolchains@vger.kernel.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Sat, Sep 4, 2021 at 8:19 AM Florian Weimer wrote: > > In any case, it would be nice to know what the real motivation is. I don't know about the original motivation, but the reason I like that patch after-the-fact is that I've actually been in situations where I test out self-built compilers without installing them. Then it's convenient to have a completely standalone kernel tree. Nobody cares about things like They are completely irrelevant for the kernel, exactly because we've always just done our own, or used __builtin_xyz() for things. is the only actual core header file that we have always taken from the installed system headers - because historically it really was required. Everything else we can just do ourselves. Linus