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Subject: Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Tom Rix as fpga maintainer
To:     Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
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From:   Tom Rix <trix@redhat.com>
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Date:   Wed, 15 Sep 2021 09:12:51 -0700
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On 9/15/21 7:04 AM, Greg KH wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 06:23:16AM -0700, Tom Rix wrote:
>> On 9/14/21 11:58 AM, Greg KH wrote:
>>> [note, you got the maintainer's email address wrong on your cc: line
>>>    I fixed it up...]
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 11:23:33AM -0700, trix@redhat.com wrote:
>>>> From: Tom Rix <trix@redhat.com>
>>>>
>>>> I am the maintainer of the fpga/ subsystem for both the kernel and
>>>> userspace for Red Hat.  I have been an active reviewer and contributor
>>>> on for public fpga/ subsystem for the last year.  I would like to
>>>> help out more.
>>>>
>>>> Since I am paid to do this work, change the status to Supported.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Tom Rix <trix@redhat.com>
>>>> ---
>>>>    MAINTAINERS | 4 ++--
>>>>    1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS
>>>> index 04fa4edf100b83..0443d7ab826659 100644
>>>> --- a/MAINTAINERS
>>>> +++ b/MAINTAINERS
>>>> @@ -7353,9 +7353,9 @@ F:	include/uapi/linux/fpga-dfl.h
>>>>    FPGA MANAGER FRAMEWORK
>>>>    M:	Moritz Fischer <mdf@kernel.org>
>>>> -R:	Tom Rix <trix@redhat.com>
>>>> +M:	Tom Rix <trix@redhat.com>
>>>>    L:	linux-fpga@vger.kernel.org
>>>> -S:	Maintained
>>>> +S:	Supported
>>>>    W:	http://www.rocketboards.org
>>>>    Q:	http://patchwork.kernel.org/project/linux-fpga/list/
>>>>    T:	git git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/mdf/linux-fpga.git
>>>> -- 
>>>> 2.26.3
>>>>
>>> Traditionally existing maintainers are the ones that add new
>>> maintainers, it's not something that you just submit a patch for hoping
>>> it will be accepted.
>>>
>>> What has changed since the last time you asked to do this?
>> Because public and private requests have gone unanswered for so long, it is
>> unclear if Moritz is still maintaining the subsystem.
> He is, as is evident by the patches I accept from him each merge.
>
>> The nearly year old xrt patchset has been pending for 6 weeks with minor
>> changes to one patch out of 14 needing reviews.
> Code quality is not the maintainer's job, it's the developer's, so the
> age and number of reviews is not any indication.

https://lore.kernel.org/linux-fpga/20210802160521.331031-1-lizhi.hou@xilinx.com/

The review is needed because Moritz asked for the changes v8 here

https://lore.kernel.org/linux-fpga/YP42zE2ljx4hHj40@epycbox.lan/

When the maintainer asks for the changes, they are responsible for the 
followup.

>> The standard release patchset, which needs an opinion has on an api change,
>> has been outstanding for 8 weeks.
> Have a pointer to it?

This was a change you requested. the recent patchset is

https://lore.kernel.org/linux-fpga/20210914214327.94048-4-russell.h.weight@intel.com/

The discussion around the api change is

https://lore.kernel.org/linux-fpga/661d53d0-0ba4-d344-8da0-995a9b612905@redhat.com/

In these toss up's if the maintainer does not weigh in as the tie 
breaker, the patch stalls.

>
>> If maintainership depends on an approving maintainter, what happens when the
>> approving maintainer has left ?
> Vacations happen in the summer.  I've talked to Moritz many times, and
> all is well here.

Yes. in the xrt v9 patch Moritz announced late of a vacation with a 
return of 9/4.

It has been 11 days.


I have tried to reach him privately several times of the last 2 months 
without a response.

Publicly several folks and I have asked for a reply to move their 
patches along.

For a low volume list, it should be possible to clear outstanding 
requests at least weekly.

When that turns into months, that is a problem.


The subsystem needs at least a submaintainer.

Tom

> greg k-h
>