Received: by 2002:a05:6a11:4021:0:0:0:0 with SMTP id ky33csp714753pxb; Wed, 15 Sep 2021 11:22:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxB6wjCVEzC50937SCwa3vFg4jwWcZMXmtX8ALEyw2Rs1UN9GfL0CRkzG6FeSU6NoHYjRKH X-Received: by 2002:a05:6402:5250:: with SMTP id t16mr1480541edd.227.1631730158468; Wed, 15 Sep 2021 11:22:38 -0700 (PDT) ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1631730158; cv=none; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; b=R1vDCY9/tkLd4EsOshcU+xGGjhtKLm1J6IZeB7eOFFTWO0T5hfHq5dMAOQ5rf/6rxu jTdOHcrj8tzjj6OXJibzpuYn1GpYcDdUCqLV3jjcKXYHEO/DsgauYv6HylSGmGJbvNpu S5iO0HC9RasGteFmngWDH4BgQaYJtcjz4T9pXrw5bjr4yB4MWPbnJr5c8m1bmUHzdYCl bSwYNcWBRFW8xEGK5PIVH1G1/sj7aleSv7S79yGP40l+ukRA58FL8KynsU4Q7ZkvI989 TCFMVdeYPLMKNhmnEFf1q6XdKjnQLfu3Qn8+2hmrEhhGWgYMY4psKLzu912SHPeMgz57 Rygw== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=arc-20160816; h=list-id:precedence:in-reply-to:content-disposition:mime-version :references:message-id:subject:cc:to:from:date; bh=yKvMnUDNiWejFoXJh3W+hSPRNxWoIQK5JwEoJ9gSiTI=; b=MEY0sIq1C7Cgn9iEITlB7P5X2yqtBN3Zu9EytVeZqcv0zmesRkD6c323vJJteOa48m N0BRGL0o/2uiOu9XFgzbJDKvqDQKr99f+REiVZwNLBhCk3G1mF4qUlkhzColcQ8t/jyQ pMK4+8aDSAO1CtUeRVlQOyLgrRTHb39NWG5joDD3W5MByQv3rkyyl2mwli8SazEM/7lu 2O3wPnyQx0Gn7ovtswmrCki0gWyhxgl0Lk6S3tJPYT/SfFb/QD0CmpLAJ7/RWPC+2uvr pKMxL3lrraQ1YFWBcDHgC530FpE09eLHHvmy+BlbfZ7do3/BQ54Rd57jhhHWaNR0cBN2 ahzQ== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Return-Path: Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org. [23.128.96.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id x8si904314edd.213.2021.09.15.11.22.13; Wed, 15 Sep 2021 11:22:38 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) client-ip=23.128.96.18; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org designates 23.128.96.18 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S230142AbhIOSWO (ORCPT + 99 others); Wed, 15 Sep 2021 14:22:14 -0400 Received: from outgoing-auth-1.mit.edu ([18.9.28.11]:43839 "EHLO outgoing.mit.edu" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-FAIL) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S229466AbhIOSWL (ORCPT ); Wed, 15 Sep 2021 14:22:11 -0400 Received: from cwcc.thunk.org (pool-72-74-133-215.bstnma.fios.verizon.net [72.74.133.215]) (authenticated bits=0) (User authenticated as tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.14.7/8.12.4) with ESMTP id 18FIKUUX021510 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Wed, 15 Sep 2021 14:20:31 -0400 Received: by cwcc.thunk.org (Postfix, from userid 15806) id AD6E115C3427; Wed, 15 Sep 2021 14:20:30 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2021 14:20:30 -0400 From: "Theodore Ts'o" To: James Bottomley Cc: Johannes Weiner , Kent Overstreet , Matthew Wilcox , Linus Torvalds , linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Andrew Morton , "Darrick J. Wong" , Christoph Hellwig , David Howells , ksummit@lists.linux.dev Subject: Re: [MAINTAINER SUMMIT] Folios as a potential Kernel/Maintainers Summit topic? Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 02:03:46PM -0400, James Bottomley wrote: > On Wed, 2021-09-15 at 13:42 -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > [...] > > Would this be helpful? (Or Linus could pull either the folio or > > pageset branch, and make this proposal obsolete, which would be > > great. :-) > > This is a technical rather than process issue isn't it? You don't have > enough technical people at the Maintainer summit to help meaningfully. > The ideal location, of course, was LSF/MM which is now not happening. > > However, we did offer the Plumbers BBB infrastructure to willy for a MM > gathering which could be expanded to include this. Well, that's why I was suggesting doing this as a LPC BOF, and using an LPC BOF session on Friday --- I'm very much aware we don't have the right tehcnical people at the Maintainer Summit. It's not clear we will have enough MM folks at the LPC, and I agree LSF/MM would be a better venue --- but as you say, it's not happening. We could also use the BBB infrastructure after the LPC as well, if we can't get everyone lined up and available on short notice. There are a lot of different possibilities; I'm for anything where all of the stakeholders agree will work, so we can make forward progress. Cheers, - Ted